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[Deleted member 1418]

Strange deal - Dybala isn’t a goalscorer , more someone who likes to play of striker and drop deep pick up the ball - more like a Firmino type player so will be interesting to see where he fits into the way OGS is going to play at Utd - I would have looked at a swap with Mandzukic even at his age.

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Some guy has marked the Premier League managers


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Seems about right

With the resources available to them, Sean Dyche and Eddie Howe should be a lot higher - what they've done with Burnley and Bournemouth to keep them in the Premiership is outstanding! Let's face it Pep has it easy - when you've got a transfer budget bigger than half the world's economies then any half competent manager can clean up.........well perhaps not Steve Bruce.........and OGS!!!

And the bottom four places should be filled by those managers with no Premiership experience; with Lampard bottom of the pile!

 

[Dan2501]

A front-3 of Martial, Rashford and Dybala with Pogba providing creativity from midfield and Wan Bissaka and Shaw providing width from wing-back looks pretty bloody scary to me going forward.

 

[clubchamp98]

A front-3 of Martial, Rashford and Dybala with Pogba providing creativity from midfield and Wan Bissaka and Shaw providing width from wing-back looks pretty bloody scary to me going forward.

I would agree it’s a similar setup to Liverpool.

 

[USER1999]

With the resources available to them, Sean Dyche and Eddie Howe should be a lot higher - what they've done with Burnley and Bournemouth to keep them in the Premiership is outstanding! Let's face it Pep has it easy - when you've got a transfer budget bigger than half the world's economies then any half competent manager can clean up.........well perhaps not Steve Bruce.........and OGS!!!

And the bottom four places should be filled by those managers with no Premiership experience; with Lampard bottom of the pile!

I think Hasenhutl should be higher up, despite zero prem experience. I would drop Emery down about 10 places too.

 

[USER1999]

A front-3 of Martial, Rashford and Dybala with Pogba providing creativity from midfield and Wan Bissaka and Shaw providing width from wing-back looks pretty bloody scary to me going forward.

At some point OGS and United really do need to find a way of getting Sanchez to click. He is the answer to scoring goals, and can / will score more than that front 3 combined. Just need to get him on board.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I would agree it’s a similar setup to Liverpool.

And I'd suggest OGS has seem the Klopp success over the last few seasons and realise that he needs something similar at United. I'd argue the Liverpool personnel are still streets ahead of Uniteds but if OGS can get them playing in that style and as someone else said get Sanchez firing then it does have the potential to get them a top four finish. That said it could also square pegs and round holes again as has been the case at Old Trafford in the recent past

 

[clubchamp98]

And I'd suggest OGS has seem the Klopp success over the last few seasons and realise that he needs something similar at United. I'd argue the Liverpool personnel are still streets ahead of Uniteds but if OGS can get them playing in that style and as someone else said get Sanchez firing then it does have the potential to get them a top four finish. That said it could also square pegs and round holes again as has been the case at Old Trafford in the recent past

All the Utd players mentioned are top class they just need to play as a team ,
Something they never did at times last year.
But can’t see them being that bad again.
But just like us he needs to sort the defence out.
How boring is it without any footy on telly.
Roll on.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

All the Utd players mentioned are top class they just need to play as a team ,
Something they never did at times last year.
But can’t see them being that bad again.
But just like us he needs to sort the defence out.
How boring is it without any footy on telly.
Roll on.

I think defensively you were definitely better last year and VVD becoming a massive influence but of course any team could be better for a decent new signing. I am not convinced Martial has really played anywhere near potential at United yet, so he needs to step up. The biggest concern would be United being able to play that style of football and more importantly how they cope when they lose the ball

 

[Bazz]

Cutrone signed yesterday....Ruben Dias next please.

 

[clubchamp98]

I think defensively you were definitely better last year and VVD becoming a massive influence but of course any team could be better for a decent new signing. I am not convinced Martial has really played anywhere near potential at United yet, so he needs to step up. The biggest concern would be United being able to play that style of football and more importantly how they cope when they lose the ball

Yes agree that’s where Pogba becomes a liability great going forward but defending is not his forte.
To play like Liverpool you need the work rate.
I think they have the players but need a CB like Virgil but they are not easy to find , he made the difference for us with the keeper .

 

[Deleted member 15344]

A front-3 of Martial, Rashford and Dybala with Pogba providing creativity from midfield and Wan Bissaka and Shaw providing width from wing-back looks pretty bloody scary to me going forward.

On paper it looks scary but the reality is they just haven’t produced over the years - they don’t create enough or score enough and adding Dybala won’t change that imo

 

[clubchamp98]

On paper it looks scary but the reality is they just haven’t produced over the years - they don’t create enough or score enough and adding Dybala won’t change that imo

Yes no matter what anyone thinks of Lukaku he does score goals.
He misses a few but so does every striker.
Can’t understand a team selling a goal scorer for a no 10.

 

[Dan2501]

On paper it looks scary but the reality is they just haven’t produced over the years - they don’t create enough or score enough and adding Dybala won’t change that imo

Over the years? Not like they've been playing forever, Rashford is 21, Martial 23, only a matter of time before they convert their talent into goals, especially if Martial can stay fit. Dybala would bring so much creativity (as a Second Striker he scored 6, assisted 5 in 11 games last season) and if OGS can get him and Pogba working well together they'd create so many opportunities. Also upgrading from Young to Wan-Bissaka offers them a lot more going forward at wing back, something they've sorely missed since Valencia lost his legs.

De Gea

Wan Bissaka
Lindelof
Maguire
Shaw

Matic
Pogba

Sanchez
Dybala
Martial

Rashford

Looks more than strong enough to compete to me. OGS just needs to get that front 4 firing and working well together. Sanchez is the worry obviously, but a bit of confidence and faith from the manager and I think he'll be a different player, he's only 30.

 

[Cherry13]

Yes no matter what anyone thinks of Lukaku he does score goals.
He misses a few but so does every striker.
Can’t understand a team selling a goal scorer for a no 10.

He scored 22 the season before, 11 before that and 19 before that. He can have a good goal scoring season if it comes together.
He was second highest scorer for Juve last season (in all comps) I think that says more about the team than him.

He likely dropped off because only 1 man can get the goals, and in the current Juve system that is C.Ronaldo.

I don’t think he’ll get 30 goals for them, but he’ll certainly improve there attack over Lukaku.

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Dybala must be mental wanting to swap Juve for Man Utd! 😂

Until United sort out Jones, Smalling and Pogba they're only going to be playing for Europa League at best.

Rashford, Martial and Shaw are very good - I'd love to have Rashford and Shaw at Chelsea.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Over the years? Not like they've been playing forever, Rashford is 21, Martial 23, only a matter of time before they convert their talent into goals, especially if Martial can stay fit. Dybala would bring so much creativity (as a Second Striker he scored 6, assisted 5 in 11 games last season) and if OGS can get him and Pogba working well together they'd create so many opportunities. Also upgrading from Young to Wan-Bissaka offers them a lot more going forward at wing back, something they've sorely missed since Valencia lost his legs.

De Gea

Wan Bissaka
Lindelof
Maguire
Shaw

Matic
Pogba

Sanchez
Dybala
Martial

Rashford

Looks more than strong enough to compete to me. OGS just needs to get that front 4 firing and working well together. Sanchez is the worry obviously, but a bit of confidence and faith from the manager and I think he'll be a different player, he's only 30.

Highlighted all the caveats

IF

and only a matter of time ? How long has Martial been in the league now ? Rashford has been playing for a number of seasons now , this will be Pogba's third season back in the Prem , Sanchez has been there 18 months now

You could go back 3 years when they bought Lukaku and Di Maria etc and it all looked great on paper - football isnt won on paper - Dybala played 30 league games last season and scored 5 , rate him as a player but dont see him being the fix to add the goals they miss.

And then there is Pogba - you have put him in the midfield as a two along with Matic - top teams would swallow them up , and then there is Lindelof , Jones Smalling - just poor CB's

I dont see them progressing much further this year because the issues they had last season are still there and they have a imo a manager who is way out of his depth

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think United will make top 4 this year. I can't see OGS or the board accepting anything less. The potential is there and the bigger issue I see is OGS coping with the pressure on his first full season in charge and the level of expectation. I do agree they are still weak defensively and its something they need to address in the market before the window closes

 

[Kellfire]

Italian league isn’t easier tho for goals

Heavily defensive league

It used to be but not anymore.

 

[Slime]

Over the years? Not like they've been playing forever, Rashford is 21, Martial 23, only a matter of time before they convert their talent into goals, especially if Martial can stay fit. Dybala would bring so much creativity (as a Second Striker he scored 6, assisted 5 in 11 games last season) and if OGS can get him and Pogba working well together they'd create so many opportunities. Also upgrading from Young to Wan-Bissaka offers them a lot more going forward at wing back, something they've sorely missed since Valencia lost his legs.

De Gea

Wan Bissaka
Lindelof
Maguire
Shaw

Matic
Pogba

Sanchez
Dybala
Martial

Rashford

Looks more than strong enough to compete to me. OGS just needs to get that front 4 firing and working well together. Sanchez is the worry obviously, but a bit of confidence and faith from the manager and I think he'll be a different player, he's only 30.

Hopefully we'll get Bruno Fernandes so Matic will be gone.
I know they're not quite the same type of player, but I'd go for that change.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Hopefully we'll get Bruno Fernandes so Matic will be gone.

Is that Fernandes the attacking midfielder ?! Replacing a defensive midfielder? - god I hope so because that would leave those poor CB’s even more exposed.