Robin Hood
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He also has a good record for getting sacked.
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Bon chance Mon Ami
Orikoru
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What does that mean? Almost every manager gets sacked eventually.
Liverbirdie
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Do you think he will if he he spends nett £20m every year, which was what Poch's "treasure chest" was?
If he does, yes, or if Levy lets him spend £100-150 mill a year and he does fair enough - can you see either scenario though?
Robin Hood
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For a "Special One" he doesn't have the longevity Of say a Ferguson or Wenger.
He averages 2 years between appointments.
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Nobody is doubting JM’s credentials based on what he’s won, it’s more how he’s done it.
I think he’s inherited a very good team of 16 players, there’s no real excuse for him to not improve performances/results over the next 7 months. I don’t think Spurs need massive investment (2possibly 3)if they keep the current team together.
Good luck to Spurs fans though, youll need it when JM starts with his toxic antics.
I think he’s inherited a very good team of 16 players, there’s no real excuse for him to not improve performances/results over the next 7 months. I don’t think Spurs need massive investment (2possibly 3)if they keep the current team together.
Good luck to Spurs fans though, youll need it when JM starts with his toxic antics.
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It’s always been at an expensive cost though, will Spurs back him to the standard of player he usually attracts?
sawtooth
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Whilst you may have a point, you just never know with Mourinho. It’s hard to write someone off that has managed to win major titles with different teams in different countries.
It will be fascinating to see how it goes.
Orikoru
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He's not walking into the dark is he? He's been in the English league long enough to know what Spurs are about. Either we have promised more than we usually spend, or he's willing at accept more of a challenge than he's had in the past. Perhaps certain players will be sold to make ends meet. If Poch goes to Real I can see him popping straight back for Kane or Son for example.
4LEX
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Net spend of £110m in 5 years and finished 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 3rd and 4th. Throw in playing at Wembley for two of those years, essentially funding half a new stadium and reaching a CL final.
This is Spurs we're talking about - an average Premiership side for 30 years. I think his tenre will be more rated in the coming years. Really sad day for Spurs fans. I've seen Spurs a fair few times over the last 5 years as a neutral and while lacking quality in certain areas, they were so well coached, intense and played exceptional football.
It's clear he lost faith with Levy over the contracts of key players, failing to sell them and then bringing in first choice targets. It disrupted dressing room harmony and made it tough for him. This is Levy's doing and he'll pay a heavy price for it. So many occasions Spurs were one or two top class players away from a title challenging side and Levy failed to deliver the goods. Even this summer Poch was desperate for Dybala and Levy bottled it.
Mourinho with a point to prove is an interesting one. I think if his remit is to finish Top 4, win some cups and forget about style then he's a good appointment on the surface. But given Levy didn't back Poch in the market, why will he back Mourinho? And we know the reason Mourinho went sour at Man Utd was down to Woodward failing to back him with his transfer targets.
Poch will have PSG, Real, Bayern, Juve and Man Utd after him if any of those sides hits a bad patch. You'd think he's also the most natural replacement to Pep at City who won't be there much longer. Unlike Man Utd, I suspect Man City will have a few succession plans in place and he'll figure on that.
This is Spurs we're talking about - an average Premiership side for 30 years. I think his tenre will be more rated in the coming years. Really sad day for Spurs fans. I've seen Spurs a fair few times over the last 5 years as a neutral and while lacking quality in certain areas, they were so well coached, intense and played exceptional football.
It's clear he lost faith with Levy over the contracts of key players, failing to sell them and then bringing in first choice targets. It disrupted dressing room harmony and made it tough for him. This is Levy's doing and he'll pay a heavy price for it. So many occasions Spurs were one or two top class players away from a title challenging side and Levy failed to deliver the goods. Even this summer Poch was desperate for Dybala and Levy bottled it.
Mourinho with a point to prove is an interesting one. I think if his remit is to finish Top 4, win some cups and forget about style then he's a good appointment on the surface. But given Levy didn't back Poch in the market, why will he back Mourinho? And we know the reason Mourinho went sour at Man Utd was down to Woodward failing to back him with his transfer targets.
Poch will have PSG, Real, Bayern, Juve and Man Utd after him if any of those sides hits a bad patch. You'd think he's also the most natural replacement to Pep at City who won't be there much longer. Unlike Man Utd, I suspect Man City will have a few succession plans in place and he'll figure on that.
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You know what you’re getting with Jose, he don’t employ him after all these years on a shoestring.
Maybe Poch had taken Spurs as far as he could and regardless of spend may not of caught yous or City, Levy might see Jose as being able to make the next step.
Everything is in place at Spurs to step up a level, I’m not putting all the blame on Poch, we can only go on what we see/read in the papers but it certainly hasn’t been plain sailing with the amount of rumours that keep happening.
What we do know is Jose will make it all about him and perhaps release some of the pressure in the background, players currently looking to leave may well stay.
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Liverbirdie
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You know what you’re getting with Jose, he don’t employ him after all these years on a shoestring.
A.Not normally, but either Levy will have to change his spots, or Jose will.
Maybe Poch had taken Spurs as far as he could and regardless of spend may not of caught yous or City, Levy might see Jose as being able to make the next step.
A. Maybe, but it can also go the other way and he could destroy most of what poch has created.
Everything is in place at Spurs to step up a level, I’m not putting all the blame on Poch, we can only go on what we see/read in the papers but it certainly hasn’t been plain sailing with the amount of rumours that keep happening.
A. Will depend on how the finances are for the stadium - if the debt is serviceable and they can spend 50-100 mill a year, they are in a good position, but if Jose doesnt get CL in his first 2 years, it could see them struggle after that.
What we do know is Jose will make it all about him and perhaps release some of the pressure in the background, players currently looking to leave may well stay.
A. Yes, he is a tactician and he may be under a different regime at Spurs were he doesnt sign players based on shirt sales/twitter followers etc and just on abaility - not sure he had that choice at Man U.
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I didnt want to paint a picture of all being doom and gloom or rosy, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
So, Rafa for Everton then?
A.Not normally, but either Levy will have to change his spots, or Jose will.
Maybe Poch had taken Spurs as far as he could and regardless of spend may not of caught yous or City, Levy might see Jose as being able to make the next step.
A. Maybe, but it can also go the other way and he could destroy most of what poch has created.
Everything is in place at Spurs to step up a level, I’m not putting all the blame on Poch, we can only go on what we see/read in the papers but it certainly hasn’t been plain sailing with the amount of rumours that keep happening.
A. Will depend on how the finances are for the stadium - if the debt is serviceable and they can spend 50-100 mill a year, they are in a good position, but if Jose doesnt get CL in his first 2 years, it could see them struggle after that.
What we do know is Jose will make it all about him and perhaps release some of the pressure in the background, players currently looking to leave may well stay.
A. Yes, he is a tactician and he may be under a different regime at Spurs were he doesnt sign players based on shirt sales/twitter followers etc and just on abaility - not sure he had that choice at Man U.
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I didnt want to paint a picture of all being doom and gloom or rosy, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
So, Rafa for Everton then?
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NopeYou know what you’re getting with Jose, he don’t employ him after all these years on a shoestring.
A.Not normally, but either Levy will have to change his spots, or Jose will.
Maybe Poch had taken Spurs as far as he could and regardless of spend may not of caught yous or City, Levy might see Jose as being able to make the next step.
A. Maybe, but it can also go the other way and he could destroy most of what poch has created.
Everything is in place at Spurs to step up a level, I’m not putting all the blame on Poch, we can only go on what we see/read in the papers but it certainly hasn’t been plain sailing with the amount of rumours that keep happening.
A. Will depend on how the finances are for the stadium - if the debt is serviceable and they can spend 50-100 mill a year, they are in a good position, but if Jose doesnt get CL in his first 2 years, it could see them struggle after that.
What we do know is Jose will make it all about him and perhaps release some of the pressure in the background, players currently looking to leave may well stay.
A. Yes, he is a tactician and he may be under a different regime at Spurs were he doesnt sign players based on shirt sales/twitter followers etc and just on abaility - not sure he had that choice at Man U.
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I didnt want to paint a picture of all being doom and gloom or rosy, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
So, Rafa for Everton then?
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Unless either
Maureen has changed the way he wants to manage
Or
Spurs are going to open the purse significantly
This for me is biggest mismatch of manager and club for a long time
For me it’s an awful appointment and Spurs are going to pay the penalty for not backing Pochettino and sacking him
Just smacks of wanting the big name
Maureen has changed the way he wants to manage
Or
Spurs are going to open the purse significantly
This for me is biggest mismatch of manager and club for a long time
For me it’s an awful appointment and Spurs are going to pay the penalty for not backing Pochettino and sacking him
Just smacks of wanting the big name
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When he has been backed heavily in the transfer market in a single club league
Imo he won’t be winning trophies at Spurs
Wolf
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Problem for me with Mourinho is he doesn't just work with what he's got and he doesn't work with youth he overlooks them for the instant fox with big cash spend and I can't see Spurs having those funds available and if they do suddenly appear surely that says more about the board not backing Poch financially if it turns out they had it all along..
As for Son not a chance Poch takes him somewhere like Real he maybe decent in a Spurs squad but he is in no way even a bench warmer player at a team like Real,, that's a hugely overrating of a player.
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Not really, Porto came from nowhere, Chelsea and Man Utd aren’t in a single club league, RM had Barca when Barca were at the height of their success.
Backed heavily, absolutely, but don’t all the top teams in the world back their guy heavily when they come in?
Spurs I would argue are 1 tier down and Poch possibly overachieved with what he had.
On paper he’s been far better than Moyes ever was, but I don’t think with all the money in the world Moyes would of took us to another level and look what happened to him when he went to a top job.
Maybe Poch’s level will be similar.
Orikoru
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What are you talking about? Son is one of the best forwards in the Premier League. Not saying he'd start every game for Madrid but he would get more than his fair share of games.
Wolf
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Now I know you're having a laugh with your Spurs tinted blinkers on, Son is a decent player but he is not one of the best forwards there re several ahead of him and he is not good enough for Real Madrid.
Orikoru
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Have you not seen him play or something?? In terms of wingers he's only really behind Mane, Salah and Sterling, and maybe Sane if he was fit. The lad is exceptional - and more two-footed than any of those four I just mentioned.
