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Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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yeah but it took Klopp 3 years to win something at Liverpool and he still hasn’t won anything domestically.

2nd, 3rd, 4th in the league is that really what you call success? I think not.
Yet you quote Wenger set high standards, a manager that in the last decade of his career was happy to scrape 4th place if lucky..

Yep double standards from the troll....
 
Wow, you really do have some Wenger rose tinted specs on. Yes he set high standards in the first half of his career with us, however the last 10 years of his tenure were not fantasticly high standards at all, many a time just creeping into 4th spot and acting as a manager that just balanced the books, letting the squad get very bare in quality at times, even tactically he got to a point where he couldn't see past 1 style of play that was often negated by even the smallest teams as it became predictable.

Then to say he was a year or 2 away again from a great season, no he really wasn't, because as our squad stood still the likes of Liverpool, City, Chelsea and even Spurs went past us in quality of players signed and football played.

As for Emery 18mths is enough time to put into place his personality, style and ideas for what the team should be looking to do, however time and again players are played in wrong position, formation changes, the players are confused by what is expected and over playing the balls they're not sure what the manager wants. Not to mention the debacle of the 5 (now4) captains set up. Then there's the unrest in the dressing room at his method's.

The club need a man to come in sit the players down and accurately tell them what is expected of them and how he plans to get them there, Emery isnt the man for that job. The club is trending badly downwards, as that continues to happen attracting players will be harder and we're not in a fight for top 4, we're just keeping our head afloat in the race for 5th/6th but that could get worse as this style continues. I don't want a Mourinho or someone like that, I'd rather a fresh approach with a manager that is willing to mix it up and build on what's there already and stamp a style on the squad that is recognisable beyond the confusion we have.

It will be most likely be Brendan Rodgers. The club have already started to sound him out.

Arsenal are obviously a much bigger club than Leicester and he would be a fool to turn it down but you never know in football.

My preference is give Emery more time and tee BR up to replace him in 1-2 years if no improvement. I stress that Emery can still turn this around and it’s work in progress, just not happening quickly enough for some.
 
Yet you quote Wenger set high standards, a manager that in the last decade of his career was happy to scrape 4th place if lucky..

Yep double standards from the troll....

No not really, I think those positions are actually a measure of success and have said so many times.

It was tongue in cheek because Phil keeps banging on about not settling for those places.Now it’s happening with Klopp ( not Wenger) I wonder if his view will change?

Phil will you be calling for Klopp to go if you don’t win the PL this year?

I have a funny feeling that might be a no. And it will be a no again next year if Klopp finishes top 4 without a PL win.

why? Because Klopp has Liverpool playing very well and is competing YoY with all top clubs. And it’s not all about honours.

Just like Wenger did.👍
 
yeah but it took Klopp 3 years to win something at Liverpool and he still hasn’t won anything domestically.

2nd, 3rd, 4th in the league is that really what you call success? I think not.

Seriously sean ? It’s called progress and moving forward to give the club the ability to challenge and right now they are - every season is a step forward , a identity has been rebuilt , foundations for the future , we have gone from struggling to get into top 6 to winning the CL and challenging for the Title

Can you see any progress from Emery ? Can you see what identify he is trying to create for the team ? Can you see the plan ?
It will be most likely be Brendan Rodgers. The club have already started to sound him out.

Arsenal are obviously a much bigger club than Leicester and he would be a fool to turn it down but you never know in football.

My preference is give Emery more time and tee BR up to replace him in 1-2 years if no improvement. I stress that Emery can still turn this around and it’s work in progress, just not happening quickly enough for some.
why on earth would BR leave a club which is clearly progressing forward and streets ahead of Arsenal on the pitch ? To go to Arsenal ? You said the same thing about Vardy when he turned you down as well - it’s not enough to just call yourself a big club - have to act like one as well both on and off the pitch
 
It will be most likely be Brendan Rodgers. The club have already started to sound him out.

Arsenal are obviously a much bigger club than Leicester and he would be a fool to turn it down but you never know in football.

My preference is give Emery more time and tee BR up to replace him in 1-2 years if no improvement. I stress that Emery can still turn this around and it’s work in progress, just not happening quickly enough for some.

Bigger but not necessarily more attractive. Leciester are in a good position right now and if I was his agent I would tell him to stay put. Leicester are a well run club, the owners have deep pockets. He can probably achieve more with Leicester in the next 1-3 years than he could with Arsenal so why move?
 
Seriously sean ? It’s called progress and moving forward to give the club the ability to challenge and right now they are - every season is a step forward , a identity has been rebuilt , foundations for the future , we have gone from struggling to get into top 6 to winning the CL and challenging for the Title

Can you see any progress from Emery ? Can you see what identify he is trying to create for the team ? Can you see the plan ?

why on earth would BR leave a club which is clearly progressing forward and streets ahead of Arsenal on the pitch ? To go to Arsenal ? You said the same thing about Vardy when he turned you down as well - it’s not enough to just call yourself a big club - have to act like one as well both on and off the pitch

Yes and Vardy has probably regretted it every day since.

I’m sure he’s already looking forward to telling his grandchildren that he used to play for Leicester but he had a chance to join Arsenal but turned it down. 😂
 
Yes and Vardy has probably regretted it every day since.

I’m sure he’s already looking forward to telling his grandchildren that he used to play for Leicester but he had a chance to join Arsenal but turned it down. 😂
Or alternatively he could tell his grandkids that whilst he turned down that big club arsenal he was leading scorer on a team that beat them to the Premier league title and was still playing in a team above them in the league...
 
Yes and Vardy has probably regretted it every day since.

I’m sure he’s already looking forward to telling his grandchildren that he used to play for Leicester but he had a chance to join Arsenal but turned it down. 😂

I don’t see Vardy regretting it one single bit - he will tell his grandkids that he won the Prem league , will be playing CL football - things that he won’t get at Arsenal
 
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Yes and Vardy has probably regretted it every day since.

I’m sure he’s already looking forward to telling his grandchildren that he used to play for Leicester but he had a chance to join Arsenal but turned it down. 😂

I trust that your use of an emoji signifies you are joking.

If not then you really do have problems .
 
Bigger but not necessarily more attractive. Leciester are in a good position right now and if I was his agent I would tell him to stay put. Leicester are a well run club, the owners have deep pockets. He can probably achieve more with Leicester in the next 1-3 years than he could with Arsenal so why move?

Because Arsenal is Arsenal and Leicester is Leicester.
 
Yes and Vardy has probably regretted it every day since.

I’m sure he’s already looking forward to telling his grandchildren that he used to play for Leicester but he had a chance to join Arsenal but turned it down. 😂
You do know he won the league with Leicester? That hasn't passed you by has it? Arsenal last won it in 2003/4 I believe. I'm sure he will get great joy in showing them his PL winners medal rather than a red and white shirt.

Vardy is a Leicester legend, will always be now, and has a better chance of winning silverware this year in blue than he would have in red. If you think his grandkids would believe he has missed a trick by not going to arsenal then you are seriously off track.
 
Don't think Vardy regrets it for a second. PL Champion and CL football. Not sure what he'd get even now at Arsenal. I think the only regret he has at the moment is not being part of the England set-up, especially with his record this season and his decision to effectively retire (although Southgate insists the door is still open) to play the best he can for Leicester
 
Because Arsenal is Arsenal and Leicester is Leicester.
That meant something 20 years ago, it doesn't now.

I'm pleased all other Arsenal fans are not taking the hump with the replies being given here. No pop at Arsenal, you are all clearly aware of the issues you have. I speak as an Everton fan whose club has its own problems right now and has for a while. Having your eyes open to the faults of your club is something you need to have.
 
You do know he won the league with Leicester? That hasn't passed you by has it? Arsenal last won it in 2003/4 I believe. I'm sure he will get great joy in showing them his PL winners medal rather than a red and white shirt.

Vardy is a Leicester legend, will always be now, and has a better chance of winning silverware this year in blue than he would have in red. If you think his grandkids would believe he has missed a trick by not going to arsenal then you are seriously off track.

I’m sure that after he explains to his grandkids who Leicester are and that they once played top flight football then they will think it’s pretty cool. 👍
 
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I’m sure that after he explains to his grandkids who Leicester are and that they once played top flight football then they will think it’s pretty cool. 👍
I think they will like his PL winners medal, his time in the CL. They will also like how the fans in Leicester see him, not just another Jonny come lately who cleared off at the first chance. I doubt he spends a single second of any day thinking about turning Arsenal down, he really wont.
 
That meant something 20 years ago, it doesn't now.

I'm pleased all other Arsenal fans are not taking the hump with the replies being given here. No pop at Arsenal, you are all clearly aware of the issues you have. I speak as an Everton fan whose club has its own problems right now and has for a while. Having your eyes open to the faults of your club is something you need to have.

FWIW Everton is a bigger club than Leicester too , a flash in a pan season won’t change that.

Although that might also be lost on you too.
 
I think they will like his PL winners medal, his time in the CL. They will also like how the fans in Leicester see him, not just another Jonny come lately who cleared off at the first chance. I doubt he spends a single second of any day thinking about turning Arsenal down, he really wont.

He really will.
 
FWIW Everton is a bigger club than Leicester too , a flash in a pan season won’t change that.

Although that might also be lost on you too.
Ha ha. I don't live in the past, I don't spend my time looking at re runs of our glory years in the 80's. Leicester right now are where we want to be, they are ahead of us. Trying to pretend otherwise is kidding yourself.
 
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