Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[sawtooth]

Specifically - are you saying that Mane puts his left leg in a "strange" position?

2 foot away from his right foot, a normal position if passing or shooting.

1. Did he go down a bit easy I'll be honest and say yes, but is his leg "buckled" by Albrighton - also yes. Albrighton is also at least 2 foot away from the ball.

I also hate diving, but there was decent enough contact here IMHO.

Also bear in mind that mane was whacked last week and got nothing, one thing you have to admit is that refs more or less base all decision-maikng now on a player going down (or not). Mane robbed a Leicester defender of a ball in the box yesterday in the first half, and the ref give a foul against him, even though he didnt even stick a leg out, he just run alongside the defender, and was faster. If refs gave fouls for fouls where the player has tried to stay on his feet, players may try to more, but they dont, so players go down. How many times do you see 6ft 4 13 1/2 stone centre halves go down as soon as they feel contact to get a foul - loads. I'd never of taken that chance, but so many times refs give it if players hit the deck - courtesy of Sepp Blatter ru(i)nning the game for 10 years.

Mane's post foul reaction was embarassing, but he didnt "do a Pires" with his left foot, and not getting a blatant pen the previous week may have led to him thinking "sod this for a game of soldiers", next time, I'm making the most of it.

I firmly believe that Mane made sure that his left leg made contact with the defender, he needed some contact else his dive would have been even more ridiculous.

I don’t know why people defend players falling to the ground with the merest touch. Call it what you like, making a meal, milking it, exaggerating contact, it’s all cheating.

Contact is inevitable in football most of it does not cause a player to fall over especially then to roll around and hold the opposite leg that had made contact with the defender. It’s cheating regardless of who it is.

Point to Pires by all means if it makes you feel better but that doesn’t excuse Mane’s behaviour does it?

 

[fundy]

Nice, just a shame Bet365 have banned me 1☹

didnt say it was my account

 

[Deleted member 1740]

didnt say it was my account

Haha I didnt mean you 👍

 

[Lord Tyrion]

i went over the top yesterday too, i backed your lot to win the league by 10+ points, feel quite dirty today

You may win money but you will never feel clean again . A price worth paying ?

 

[fundy]

You may win money but you will never feel clean again . A price worth paying ?

call it softening the blow if they run away with it

 

[Deleted member 1740]

call it softening the blow when they run away with it

Hopefully 🤭😉

 

[Liverbirdie]

I firmly believe that Mane made sure that his left leg made contact with the defender, he needed some contact else his dive would have been even more ridiculous.

I don’t know why people defend players falling to the ground with the merest touch. Call it what you like, making a meal, milking it, exaggerating contact, it’s all cheating.

Contact is inevitable in football most of it does not cause a player to fall over especially then to roll around and hold the opposite leg that had made contact with the defender. It’s cheating regardless of who it is.

Point to Pires by all means if it makes you feel better but that doesn’t excuse Mane’s behaviour does it?

As I said, I cant argue with the post-contact hystrionics, but you are adding other stuff to what wasn't there, as it suits your anti-Mane/Liverpool stance.

Mane put his left foot in a normal place.

Do you not think that the Sheffield United defender also hasn't cheated by taking Mane out last week, but not admitting it to the ref? You cant have it both ways.

 

[Orikoru]

Cheating is an extravagant word for it. By that marker anyone who appeals for a throw-in that they might not have touched last is cheating. Anyone who celebrates a goal when they were offside is cheating. Cheating and gamesmanship are not one and the same and to pretend they are is wilful ignorance.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

20/1 at 365

With a 8pt headstart 20's is massive.

We managed to get £80 on after it being referred to a trader and initially only allowing £12.50 😉

It'll be a massive task to win it, even more so by a distance but it's a Bet worth placing for interest alone.

 

[pokerjoke]

Cheating is an extravagant word for it. By that marker anyone who appeals for a throw-in that they might not have touched last is cheating. Anyone who celebrates a goal when they were offside is cheating. Cheating and gamesmanship are not one and the same and to pretend they are is wilful ignorance.

What are you on about.
Players will celebrate scoring a goal until they realise they are offside or the offside is given.
How the hell is that cheating.
Get a bloody grip

 

[Orikoru]

What are you on about.
Players will celebrate scoring a goal until they realise they are offside or the offside is given.
How the hell is that cheating.
Get a bloody grip

I think my post went over your head.

 

[pokerjoke]

I think my post went over your head.

My apologies it did

I think most on here are sick to death of how footballers are reacting to the slightest of touches from all the teams.

Refs certainly need to start looking at the over reacting by players especially rolling around after a challenge or clutching faces when it’s clear it’s not the face.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

INCIDENT: In the final minutes of the game, Liverpool were awarded a penalty after Mark Albrighton caught the foot of Sadio Mane in the area, sending the forward over. Referee Chris Kavanagh pointed to the spot and the decision was confirmed by a VAR review. James Milner stepped up to convert the spot-kick and win the game for Liverpool.
DERMOT'S VERDICT: Correct decision.
DERMOT SAYS: "We talk about it because of how Mane went down, he didn't go down too well, but I think it is a foul and once you give a foul, you have to give a penalty. The problem we have is that we talk about minimal contact and going down theatrically, he does do that, but I do think he was fouled."

 

[Bazz]

United fan on 606 wants Lennon and Keane partnership to take over from OGS. Please God let that happen

 

[Lord Tyrion]

United fan on 606 wants Lennon and Keane partnership to take over from OGS. Please God let that happen

Can we start a #lennon&keane on social media and see if we can get it trending? The owners see it, think it is a good idea............. I didn't think it could get better than Mourinho there but that could top it.

 

[Liverbirdie]

INCIDENT: In the final minutes of the game, Liverpool were awarded a penalty after Mark Albrighton caught the foot of Sadio Mane in the area, sending the forward over. Referee Chris Kavanagh pointed to the spot and the decision was confirmed by a VAR review. James Milner stepped up to convert the spot-kick and win the game for Liverpool.
DERMOT'S VERDICT: Correct decision.
DERMOT SAYS: "We talk about it because of how Mane went down, he didn't go down too well, but I think it is a foul and once you give a foul, you have to give a penalty. The problem we have is that we talk about minimal contact and going down theatrically, he does do that, but I do think he was fouled."

I would actually change it so that you can still give the penalty / foul, but if you also think that a player has excessively exaggerated the extent of the contact that they can also be booked in them circumstances. Book as ungentlemanly conduct.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

United fan on 606 wants Lennon and Keane partnership to take over from OGS. Please God let that happen

Not until we beat them next week 😉

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I would actually change it so that you can still give the penalty / foul, but if you also think that a player has excessively exaggerated the extent of the contact that they can also be booked in them circumstances. Book as ungentlemanly conduct.

The only issue with that is if players dont go down, 99% of the time they dont get the foul.

Personally I think fouls are given way too easy but that's just my opinion.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

The only issue with that is if players dont go down, 99% of the time they dont get the foul.

Personally I think fouls are given way too easy but that's just my opinion.

But then as said in copmmentary for MotD, Milner got taken out and got straight up, no card given against the offedning Leicester player, a Leicester player goes down and rolls around for 3 barrel rolls, and earns the Liverpool player a yellow, yet still gets up and runs off. The commentator said something along the lines of "the younger players should learn from Milner"
Too often the player is "killed" and earns the offender a card, when in actual fact it's either nothing or just a foul.

 

[MegaSteve]

More than ever believe/feel footie was a whole lot better before MotD and social media...

The thought of 'watching' a game on Twitter really doesn't float my boat...