Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[sawtooth]

A decent point and still only one defeat in the league and that was away to Liverpool.

Not a bad start for a team that is still without a few first 11 players.

We could have nicked a win today if we showed a bit more enterprise with the team selection but then again we could have lost 4-0 so fair play, a point at OT is never a bad point.
Wenger might have said tonight “We played a little bit with the handbrake on” and I would agree with that, they were there for the taking Utd.

It’s beginning to look like Pepe will need a season to settle which isn’t unusual tbf. I think this Arsenal team will continue to drop points here and there but will get stronger and trend upwards over the next 1-2 seasons. I just hope that doubters don’t force Emery out before we see the fruits of his labour.

Rome wasn’t built in a day. 👍

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Thanks Homer, top six now guaranteed for both sides.

Bet you £10 for H4H both don't make it

 

[Orikoru]

Bet you £10 for H4H both don't make it

But if neither Arsenal nor Utd are in the top six then who is?? Leicester and...? Now that Wolves and Watford have dropped out of the picture, Everton have been poor as well. Surely not West Ham??

 

[Slime]

Bet you £10 for H4H both don't make it

Done.

 

[sawtooth]

Bet you £10 for H4H both don't make it

Happy to take that bet for HFH too, there is no way that Arsenal will finish 7th or worse this year.

 

[pendodave]

A decent point and still only one defeat in the league and that was away to Liverpool.

Not a bad start for a team that is still without a few first 11 players.

We could have nicked a win today if we showed a bit more enterprise with the team selection but then again we could have lost 4-0 so fair play, a point at OT is never a bad point.
Wenger might have said tonight “We played a little bit with the handbrake on” and I would agree with that, they were there for the taking Utd.

It’s beginning to look like Pepe will need a season to settle which isn’t unusual tbf. I think this Arsenal team will continue to drop points here and there but will get stronger and trend upwards over the next 1-2 seasons. I just hope that doubters don’t force Emery out before we see the fruits of his labour.

Rome wasn’t built in a day. 👍

Not sure about this. I went to the carabau game (not a gooner, just curious). The team had a certain logic to its construction and played in a reasonably structured way, albeit against forest. Someone told me that Freddie had sorted it out...
Fast forward to last night... Players hopelessly out of position, no structure either with or without the ball, kind of a footballing Brownian motion.
I've watched quite a lot of sub standard fare over the years as an occasional visitor to Upton park and Stratford, so I know what it looks like.
If you had Pellegrino (perish the thought) it would be a better team in a month.

 

[pendodave]

But if neither Arsenal nor Utd are in the top six then who is?? Leicester and...? Now that Wolves and Watford have dropped out of the picture, Everton have been poor as well. Surely not West Ham??

Surely not.... Probably not, actually. I think only one of them will miss out as Chelsea, Leicester and spurs in no particular order will take 3 of the 4.
On balance, I think arsenal will get there despite Emery's best efforts as they have a couple of top class forwards and will soon have two much better full backs available.

 

[clubchamp98]

No attempt to get out of the way despite the ball having travelled 10 yards or so.

But I agree the situation where a different interpretation is applied to a forward compared to a defender makes a mockery of the handball law.

Hasn’t that always happened?
How many times have you heard “ that was a forwards challenge” when he has just clattered someone and gets away with it,
Where a defender would be booked.

 

[sawtooth]

Not sure about this. I went to the carabau game (not a gooner, just curious). The team had a certain logic to it's construction and played in a reasonably structured way, albeit against forest. Someone told me that Freddie had sorted it out...
Fast forward to last night... Players hopelessly out of position, no structure either with or without the ball, kind of a footballing Brownian motion.
I've watched quite a lot of sub standard fare over the years as an occasional visitor to Upton park and Stratford, so I know what it looks like.
If you had Pellegrino (perish the thought) it would be a better team in a month.

With respect to Forest they aren’t the same calibre as Utd therefore requires a different game plan.

That’s the most impressive thing about Emery for me so far, his ability to change things up. I believe he is using every game to experiment to find his best 11, and when the selection/formation hasn’t worked he seems to know how to rescue the situation.

This is the one thing that he is better than Wenger at IMO.

 

[clubchamp98]

With respect to Forest they aren’t the same calibre as Utd therefore requires a different game plan.

That’s the most impressive thing about Emery for me so far, his ability to change things up. I believe he is using every game to experiment to find his best 11, and when the selection/formation hasn’t worked he seems to know how to rescue the situation.

This is the one thing that he is better than Wenger at IMO.

I thought you should have won quite easily .
Your finishing was just not good enough.
Abamayang scored his only one but all others were wasted.

 

[pendodave]

With respect to Forest they aren’t the same calibre as Utd therefore requires a different game plan.

That’s the most impressive thing about Emery for me so far, his ability to change things up. I believe he is using every game to experiment to find his best 11, and when the selection/formation hasn’t worked he seems to know how to rescue the situation.

This is the one thing that he is better than Wenger at IMO.

Hmmm... He's had a season and a bit and no gooner I know has the faintest idea what he's up to.
I think you'd have to go a very long way down the table to find a team who's supporters would rather have Emery than their current incumbent.
You've too many decent players to be terrible, but....I just think they are less than the sum of their parts and I don't think I'm alone.

 

[sawtooth]

Hmmm... He's had a season and a bit and no gooner I know has the faintest idea what he's up to.
I think you'd have to go a very long way down the table to find a team who's supporters would rather have Emery than their current incumbent.
You've too many decent players to be terrible, but....I just think they are less than the sum of their parts and I don't think I'm alone.

4th in the league, only 1 position lower than anybody could realistically be ( behind City and Liverpool).

And where does your assessment of Emery leave Poch, Lampard, OGS? Who sit behind Arsenal in the league currently?

This is a 3-5 year project and I’m relaxed about how things are going at the moment.

Signs are there that this guy knows what he is doing, the strategy looks sound but of course there will be tactical losses and mishaps along the way - that’s football.

 

[Junior]

A decent point and still only one defeat in the league and that was away to Liverpool.

Not a bad start for a team that is still without a few first 11 players.

We could have nicked a win today if we showed a bit more enterprise with the team selection but then again we could have lost 4-0 so fair play, a point at OT is never a bad point.
Wenger might have said tonight “We played a little bit with the handbrake on” and I would agree with that, they were there for the taking Utd.

It’s beginning to look like Pepe will need a season to settle which isn’t unusual tbf. I think this Arsenal team will continue to drop points here and there but will get stronger and trend upwards over the next 1-2 seasons. I just hope that doubters don’t force Emery out before we see the fruits of his labour.

Rome wasn’t built in a day. 👍

So were Arsenal mate. Lets face it.....both teams were bang average and a shadow of their former selves.

Utd have a striker in Rashford who couldn't score in a brothel right now. Pereira, Young and Lingard are woeful. As i said earlier, I like the attitude in the squad and the fact Ole's building a team with no bad eggs so to speak, but we need a few more signings.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

But if neither Arsenal nor Utd are in the top six then who is?? Leicester and...? Now that Wolves and Watford have dropped out of the picture, Everton have been poor as well. Surely not West Ham??

Dw, we just lost fabanski for 3 months

 

[pendodave]

Dw, we just lost fabanski for 3 months

Depressing isn't it.
When him and pellers came in, I was deeply unimpressed. Turns out I was completely wrong on both counts. In fact, I think he is the 'player I was most wrong about when signed'
The manager I was most wrong about was wanting us to get Silva when he left hull...

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Depressing isn't it.
When him and pellers came in, I was deeply unimpressed. Turns out I was completely wrong on both counts. In fact, I think he is the 'player I was most wrong about when signed'
The manager I was most wrong about was wanting us to get Silva when he left hull...

Im fully behind Roberto ofc and I honestly don't think keeping Adrian would have been better because he was a liability he just has one of the best defences in front of him now. Put him back for us and he would let in as many as Roberto does

That said fabainski is a different class. Was very impressed when him and MP signed , only issue with them both is their ages. Old for a manager and whilst 33 isn't that old for s keeper it's not like we set for a long long time

 

[Orikoru]

Pretty good game this! I do feel like we need at least two more goals though as you just know Coutinho and Gnabry will both score. Sonny looks well sharp early on.

 

[GG26]

Can’t believe how open the game is - great to watch.

 

[sawtooth]

COYS.

This is embarrassing, make it stop.

 

[USER1999]

Spurs, the gift that keeps on giving.