Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Tashyboy]

You say that, but we know full well City will drop £70mil on a 'proper' replacement for David Silva in the summer, and Foden will be in the same boat. Pep has clearly developed the lad really well, but now is the time he needs to be playing week in week out, not 10 mins here and a league cup game there.

Irrespective of Foden or Mount, any player that is in the Squad that has played less than 50 games eg, shows how weak we are. Foden is good, very good. But put him in front of KDB, both Silvas. It is not going to happen short term.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

The biggest issue for me is the fact that as a side as a whole we continue to give the ball away far too cheaply and as we've seen in tournaments against good sides, especially those with pace, that can cost us

 

[Tashyboy]

The biggest issue for me is the fact that as a side as a whole we continue to give the ball away far too cheaply and as we've seen in tournaments against good sides, especially those with pace, that can cost us


For me Homer, playing two defensive midfielders upsets the whole balance of the team. IT is poor to play out from the back, and even poorer to link to the front. How many creative midfielders do you know that does not look comfortable on the ball. How many Prem clubs play with two def midfielders. We are asking 11 players to play in a system that is not recognisable at any of there clubs.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Rice and Winks are young though, they have lots of time to improve, and getting them alongside each other early will help them form a good midfield partnership in the long run.

Loftus-Cheek is an attacking midfielder, he would not be 'sitting in centre mid'. Good player though I agree. When he's fit and Oxlade is back to fitness I hope we never see Barkley or Lingard in another squad again.

I thought the whole reason he went to a back 5 for the World Cup was because he didn't trust the centre backs. We're in exactly the same situation on that but he's gone to a back four anyway. Bit odd.

I didnt say Loftus Cheek would be "sitting in Centre Mid"

Southgate went to a back four at the start of last season when he brought in Gomez alongside another CB - it worked better because of the abilities of Gomez and allowed a front three to be created.

Barkley isnt a bad player but should be behind others within the squad

Rice will prob end up a CB , Winks - yep maybe young but it doesnt seem to have that star factor and i dont expect him to progress too much.

Ox needs to fit the fitness and form he had before his injury

But your three in the middle should be a combination of

Rice ,Henderson , Maddison , Oxlade , RLC , Mount ? ( if he continues to develop ) , Winks and Ali

As for Foden - if he is that good then he should be playing every week - even out on loan , i dont understand why he didnt go on loan to get the games under his belt - the only way he can show he is good enough and its not just all talk based on the odd cameo appearance is to play week in week out either in the Prem or abroad. Sancho made the move and look at him. If not Foden imo will end up being the new Wilshire

 

[HomerJSimpson]

For me Homer, playing two defensive midfielders upsets the whole balance of the team. IT is poor to play out from the back, and even poorer to link to the front. How many creative midfielders do you know that does not look comfortable on the ball. How many Prem clubs play with two def midfielders. We are asking 11 players to play in a system that is not recognisable at any of there clubs.

I agree that Southgate isn't playing a system that most players are comfy with in terms of the two defensive midfielders and do they really have time to learn and integrate this in the short periods they have together. Personally I'd like to see one holding and find someone willing to pick up a ball and move forward and look for a pass. However I still think we turn the possession over too often

 

[clubchamp98]

When Pep came to City and we started passing it out from the back, by half time every toilet was empty of paper. Fans were crapping themselves "screaming lump it.forward". Now everyone knows what there doing it looks fantastic seeing defending players comfortable on the ball.
Relate that to England, as much as I like to see it playing out from the back. They look clueless. Two defensive midfielders? They don't look like they know where they should be.

I agree but that’s up to the manager.
What would Pep say about the square ball for two of their goals?
It would not be printable.
But if we can see it what is GS watching?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Must be a very slow night for sport when Sky Sports Main Event is a testimonial and they are sending out goal alerts

 

[sam85]

Must be a very slow night for sport when Sky Sports Main Event is a testimonial and they are sending out goal alerts

It is though isn't it, I hate the international break. Roll on the weekend!!

 

[Tashyboy]

Fortunately for some of us we have had our live football fix tonight. Captain Vinnies testimonial. Pity Vinnie has picked up another injury and couldn't play. Ah that's the Vinnie I remember. Anyway, watching the game honestly reminded me of the Ex City icons on show tonight. Stephen Ireland aka superman, still thinks he has got it. Er no he hasn't. Benjani, Lordy Lordy, then scores an equaliser. Nigel de Jong, still kicking them. But and flippin but. What caught my eye was players that haven't lost it. Shauny Wright Wright Wright. He has lost a couple of yards and it shows. However, Robin van Persie, Robbie Keane, mikel arteta, Paul Scholes and Michael Carrick were quality and I mean quality. Don't get me wrong now I see City flowing with the midfield football on display, maybe it was easy to notice. But watching those I have mentioned it was nice on the eye, real nice. Carrick and Scholes are the two players missing from Englands midfield. I cannot believe I am bigging up two Utd players but the time they had on the ball, the way it linked from back to front was a joy to watch. Arteta flippin Eck. Now it had me thinkin coming back over the Pennines.
As a Utd fan I would of dribbled watching that every week. Is that part of the problem now that they have seen flowing football and now they are watching, well what they are watching.

 

[Norrin Radd]

It is though isn't it, I hate the international break. Roll on the weekend!!

Amen to that

 

[clubchamp98]

Fortunately for some of us we have had our live football fix tonight. Captain Vinnies testimonial. Pity Vinnie has picked up another injury and couldn't play. Ah that's the Vinnie I remember. Anyway, watching the game honestly reminded me of the Ex City icons on show tonight. Stephen Ireland aka superman, still thinks he has got it. Er no he hasn't. Benjani, Lordy Lordy, then scores an equaliser. Nigel de Jong, still kicking them. But and flippin but. What caught my eye was players that haven't lost it. Shauny Wright Wright Wright. He has lost a couple of yards and it shows. However, Robin van Persie, Robbie Keane, mikel arteta, Paul Scholes and Michael Carrick were quality and I mean quality. Don't get me wrong now I see City flowing with the midfield football on display, maybe it was easy to notice. But watching those I have mentioned it was nice on the eye, real nice. Carrick and Scholes are the two players missing from Englands midfield. I cannot believe I am bigging up two Utd players but the time they had on the ball, the way it linked from back to front was a joy to watch. Arteta flippin Eck. Now it had me thinkin coming back over the Pennines.
As a Utd fan I would of dribbled watching that every week. Is that part of the problem now that they have seen flowing football and now they are watching, well what they are watching.

Great respect for Kompany using his money for the homeless .
He’s a proper football hero to lots of people.
He’s been lucky in life and to share that around is awesome.
Hope he stays in the game as his quality is hard to come by.
Except for a few dodgy tackles lol.

 

[PJ87]

@Orikoru

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ue-referees-chief-admits-FOUR-errors-VAR.html

Var has made 4 errors apparently

Kanes dive not one of them 😂

 

[Orikoru]

@Orikoru

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ue-referees-chief-admits-FOUR-errors-VAR.html

Var has made 4 errors apparently

Kanes dive not one of them 😂

Five errors by my count then.

 

[PJ87]

Five errors by my count then.

You sound like that tool on the rules forum about practice 😂

 

[Orikoru]

You sound like that tool on the rules forum about practice 😂

Hey you brought it up again not me.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Good to see the prem clubs trying to limit the use of plastic at grounds, worked well when I went the Ashes at OT last week with one cup for the whole game.

Wonder if they'll extend it to the flags at Chelsea, City, Everton.......

 

[Tashyboy]

Good to see the prem clubs trying to limit the use of plastic at grounds, worked well when I went the Ashes at OT last week with one cup for the whole game.

Wonder if they'll extend it to the flags at Chelsea, City, Everton.......

I know what your saying my last four flags have champions on them. Could do to come second and save the environment 😁

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Good to see the prem clubs trying to limit the use of plastic at grounds, worked well when I went the Ashes at OT last week with one cup for the whole game.

Wonder if they'll extend it to the flags at Chelsea, City, Everton.......

At Newcastle they sell soft drinks in plastic bottles. They sell beer in plastic bottles, security and also the bottles get knocked over and smashed glass would be everywhere. You can buy pints but they again are in disposable plastic, presumably to stop breakages again. What are the suggestions to reduce their use? Will they go back to glass? Can paper cups last or would they disintegrate or be lined so not recyclable?

 

[Liverbirdie]

At Twickenham and at OT cricket, you pay £1 for your first solid plastic pint glass, take it back get it swapped every pint, take it back at the end, get your £1 back, or keep as a souvenir as it has a pictorial "wrap" around it with pictures of the cricketers/ashes etc.

 

[Liverbirdie]

I know what your saying my last four flags have champions on them. Could do to come second and save the environment 😁

Ours (home-made) has "Of Europe" on as well, willing to do a swap anytime you like.