Pre Shot Routine... How long

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Walk up to ball , assess lie, stand behind ball to pick aim point,stand parallel to aim point, a couple of swishes, step into ball big deep breath, make full back swing and exhale on down swing, done.

15-25 secs max I'm guessing

 

[London mike 61]

15-25 secs max I'm guessing

Something like that, although I've never really timed myself.

 

[G_Mulligan]

Walk up to ball , assess lie, stand behind ball to pick aim point,stand parallel to aim point, a couple of swishes, step into ball big deep breath, make full back swing and exhale on down swing, done.

Does that work well for you? Just interested as not something I would recommend. Would usually be breathe in, breathe out then go or not think about breathing at all.

 

[London mike 61]

Does that work well for you? Just interested as not something I would recommend. Would usually be breathe in, breathe out then go or not think about breathing at all.

It just helps me stay relaxed, I'm not sure if I think about doing it because it has ingrained itself into my preshot routine.

 

[G_Mulligan]

It just helps me stay relaxed, I'm not sure if I think about doing it because it has ingrained itself into my preshot routine.

fair enough, whatever works for you. Just as a pointer though breathing in creates tension and breathing out releases it. The concern might be that the backswing is slower than the downswing so you may not fully exhale at impact. To release tension you should breathe out more than in.

But hey like I said if it's not broke don't fix it but maybe give it a try some time if you do ever feel tense during the swing.

 

[G_Mulligan]

fair enough, whatever works for you. Just as a pointer though breathing in creates tension and breathing out releases it. The concern might be that the backswing is slower than the downswing so you may not fully exhale at impact. To release tension you should breathe out more than in.

But hey like I said if it's not broke don't fix it but maybe give it a try some time if you do ever feel tense during the swing.

Just been thinking about this a bit more and maybe you are onto something. Like the Hi Ya in Karate and the grunt in tennis I believe the idea behind those is it creates more power by breathing out. Maybe good for power not sure about control and tempo. Going to have a look for any literature on this and have a play around with it at the range tomorrow.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Oh please tell me is this one of those comedy threads.
I just cant make my mind up

 

[London mike 61]

Just been thinking about this a bit more and maybe you are onto something. Like the Hi Ya in Karate and the grunt in tennis I believe the idea behind those is it creates more power by breathing out. Maybe good for power not sure about control and tempo. Going to have a look for any literature on this and have a play around with it at the range tomorrow.

I don't think it's about power for me, its more to do with swinging the club rather than hitting at the ball. I hope that makes some kind of sense.

 

[G_Mulligan]

I don't think it's about power for me, its more to do with swinging the club rather than hitting at the ball. I hope that makes some kind of sense.

Yeah of course. Unlike the karate and the tennis you don't want a quick out breath at impact or you will hit at the ball, as you rightly say. But maybe a slower exhalation during the down swing (like yours) will create a gradual build up of power which is perfect for the golf swing.

Apologies if I am taking the thread on a tangent but I can't help being a science geek and just love testing theories. This time next week I will be roping in the guys at the range to test it out and looking for a control group

 

[the_coach]

Yeah of course. Unlike the karate and the tennis you don't want a quick out breath at impact or you will hit at the ball, as you rightly say. But maybe a slower exhalation during the down swing (like yours) will create a gradual build up of power which is perfect for the golf swing.

Apologies if I am taking the thread on a tangent but I can't help being a science geek and just love testing theories. This time next week I will be roping in the guys at the range to test it out and looking for a control group

Just noticed the tangent, already been a few studies on this seems the consensus of which so far was that golfers had better results if exhaling on the downswing, and if there mouths were open a little throughout the whole swing, rather than clenched shut and tension.
There has been a study just recently, I think in Japan, where golfers hit balls with some sort of dental plate in and acoording to that results were better when it was used. The Irish golfer, Harrington swings with his tongue poking out, mouth slightly open.

Pre shot routines need to be repetitive shot to shot, and as much as possible with the same time taken each time. Once the shot and club decided on, the routine gets the brain to key in on positive repetitive action so you don't focus on the negative possibility of the outcome.

I think it was Sir Nick Faldo who first talked of, once the shot and club decided on, he'd imagine a 6' square around his ball, once he'd finished any talk with Fanny, he'd just step into the 'box' focus on target, go through the ingrained routine and make the swing.

 

[G_Mulligan]

Just noticed the tangent, already been a few studies on this seems the consensus of which so far was that golfers had better results if exhaling on the downswing, and if there mouths were open a little throughout the whole swing, rather than clenched shut and tension.
There has been a study just recently, I think in Japan, where golfers hit balls with some sort of dental plate in and acoording to that results were better when it was used. The Irish golfer, Harrington swings with his tongue poking out, mouth slightly open.

Pre shot routines need to be repetitive shot to shot, and as much as possible with the same time taken each time. Once the shot and club decided on, the routine gets the brain to key in on positive repetitive action so you don't focus on the negative possibility of the outcome.

I think it was Sir Nick Faldo who first talked of, once the shot and club decided on, he'd imagine a 6' square around his ball, once he'd finished any talk with Fanny, he'd just step into the 'box' focus on target, go through the ingrained routine and make the swing.

must resist, breathe and relax, don't say anything

seriously though breathing is very important in sport and as you say if done correctly can give you an edge then it is worth thinking about. Didn't under armour bring out a gumshield designed along these lines? I think I even applied to test them for the magazine but didn't get selected.

 

[the_coach]

must resist, breathe and relax, don't say anything

seriously though breathing is very important in sport and as you say if done correctly can give you an edge then it is worth thinking about. Didn't under armour bring out a gumshield designed along these lines? I think I even applied to test them for the magazine but didn't get selected.

Don't know about the UA, only remember in the last month or so hearing about a controlled test, I think in Japan.

 

[richart]

I can understand a practice swing with a driver, as you can replicate the swing required. With a full iron you will be practicing topping the ball. I hope no one is taking divots with their practice swings. I just take a bit of a swish to try and stay loose.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I take a couple of lose quick swings before hitting helps me focus a bit

 

[Hacker Khan]

Just noticed the tangent, already been a few studies on this seems the consensus of which so far was that golfers had better results if exhaling on the downswing, and if there mouths were open a little throughout the whole swing, rather than clenched shut and tension.

Jeez, it's bad enough for most amateurs with 6 swing thoughts they forget as soon as they start the swing without having to think about how they are breathing or how open their mouth is.

 

[London mike 61]

I can understand a practice swing with a driver, as you can replicate the swing required. With a full iron you will be practicing topping the ball. I hope no one is taking divots with their practice swings. I just take a bit of a swish to try and stay loose.

When I 'swish' there is hardly any shaft lean,I just bruise the grass a little. If anything it helps me confirm I have a good ball position.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Walk up to ball , assess lie, stand behind ball to pick aim point,stand parallel to aim point, a couple of swishes, step into ball big deep breath, make full back swing and exhale on down swing, done.

I was told if you want to do anything, breath out as it relaxes the body although I prefer not to focus on the breathing at all

 

[G_Mulligan]

Jeez, it's bad enough for most amateurs with 6 swing thoughts they forget as soon as they start the swing without having to think about how they are breathing or how open their mouth is.

if it replaces one or more of the swing thoughts it could be a good thing, point of the PSR is to make it second nature by developing it in practice and using it when the pressure is on and unhelpful thoughts creep in

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Jeez, it's bad enough for most amateurs with 6 swing thoughts they forget as soon as they start the swing without having to think about how they are breathing or how open their mouth is.

:thup:

Do we need a pre-shot breathing routine as well? :rofl: