Practice Routine

[Snelly]

There's a massive difference from playing the fortnightly pro am or the alliance through the winter and being a tour pro or an elite amature,,
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Not as big as the difference between a tour pro and a 15 handicap club golfer and yet we all see the latter copying the former on every trip to any golf course. Something that I find personally quite ridiculous although plenty on this forum disagree and think they can only improve through visualisation, focus, routines etc.

Visualisation of the perceived shot and perfect repeated preparation don't count for much if, when you swing, you still can't hit a cow's backside with a banjo...

 

[ScratchSRL]

jeeeeeeez!

I have bought GRiP which looks like the nuts when it comes to practising, will give you guys all an update when I have started using it,

Phil for you, ill even produce a report on how it has improved my scoring!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

jeeeeeeez!

I have bought GRiP which looks like the nuts when it comes to practising, will give you guys all an update when I have started using it,

Phil for you, ill even produce a report on how it has improved my scoring!

What is GRiP ?

 

[Foxholer]

Well I haven't omitted anything as I have said numerous times now

Then you'd be wrong!

Just not knowingly/deliberately.

Possibly the don't was put in after I quoted the message ?

Nope - that would leave an 'updated...' line.

so not sure the big deal or the demands for apologies etc

Only 'demand' (note the quotes) was from CMAC who got things arse about face.

Not as big as the difference between a tour pro and a 15 handicap club golfer and yet we all see the latter copying the former on every trip to any golf course. Something that I find personally quite ridiculous although plenty on this forum disagree and think they can only improve through visualisation, focus, routines etc.

Visualisation of the perceived shot and perfect repeated preparation don't count for much if, when you swing, you still can't hit a cow's backside with a banjo...

For those with aspirations, it's either that or admit their (our) lack of talent!

Something easily harvestable by the marketeers!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Then there is no problem - excellent that's that sorted.

 

[3565]

And I asked how it has improved his game by asking if his scores have improved on a consistent basis - by asking that it appears I committed some crime.

Iain I'm guessing is a "qualified proven coach" as opposed to a 12 handicapper on a forum - his proof and validation is his career :thup:

spent 15yrs at Cleveland working with pros on wedges, engineer by profession, spent 5yrs on F1 scene. Could you call that proven qualified coach? That's open to opinion. Did he spend 3hrs talking and watching Mickelson about short game shots? Yes. So I'm not going to ask for validation that Mickelsons hinge n hold method is better then Peter Cowans method who he knows. I'm going to listen learn and try on his say so.

But you question a psycologist profession in the past cos he is a high (20 odd) hc player!!!!!

 

[3565]

Well I haven't omitted anything as I have said numerous times now

Possibly the don't was put in after I quoted the message ?


I read that he said don't practise anyway so not sure the big deal or the demands for apologies etc

ive not asked for your apologies just pointing it out. But I'll take it at face value in what you say!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

jeeeeeeez!

I have bought GRiP which looks like the nuts when it comes to practising, will give you guys all an update when I have started using it,

Phil for you, ill even produce a report on how it has improved my scoring!

Way back in the midst of time this is what I put on here as something to use for practicing. Very good for giving specific targets and scores to beat and so makes the session that more realistic in terms of trying to beat previous scores and focus on the target

 

[Foxholer]

Then there is no problem - excellent that's that sorted.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

spent 15yrs at Cleveland working with pros on wedges, engineer by profession, spent 5yrs on F1 scene. Could you call that proven qualified coach? That's open to opinion. Did he spend 3hrs talking and watching Mickelson about short game shots? Yes. So I'm not going to ask for validation that Mickelsons hinge n hold method is better then Peter Cowans method who he knows. I'm going to listen learn and try on his say so.

But you question a psycologist profession in the past cos he is a high (20 odd) hc player!!!!!

So you have just reeled off someone's proof and validation - you listened to him because of his experience and back ground and because of who he is.

And yes I do question a psychologist who suggests something will improve your game when it doesn't appear to improve his own.

 

[ScratchSRL]

.....some people are good at thinking things for other people, such a short sighted way of looking at things, things work for different people. So confused at how someone could be so short sighted not to try something and see if it works for them. 'I'm not going to use Vokey wedges, because I saw Jordan Speith duff a chip with them'

Crazy

 

[Foxholer]

Way back in the midst of time this is what I put on here as something to use for practicing. Very good for giving specific targets and scores to beat and so makes the session that more realistic in terms of trying to beat previous scores and focus on the target

At least you'll be able to prove it if a certain someone disagrees with you! :rofl:

@ScratchSRL. Good luck with GRiP. Will be interested to see what you think, immediately and in a few months. Bit on the expensive side for me - though less than the cost of 2 lessons!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

.....some people are good at thinking things for other people, such a short sighted way of looking at things, things work for different people. So confused at how someone could be so short sighted not to try something and see if it works for them. 'I'm not going to use Vokey wedges, because I saw Jordan Speith duff a chip with them'

Crazy

When was that said ?

 

[3565]

So you have just reeled off someone's proof and validation - you listened to him because of his experience and back ground and because of who he is.

And yes I do question a psychologist who suggests something will improve your game when it doesn't appear to improve his own.

I've never heard of him until 2 weeks ago from what I've read on here. I saw his wedges on his web site and thought yes, I want to see what this is about. He's not a qualified coach although he has a great ability to explain and teach and has designed a product that looks good and will certainly help my game then the generic products from the OEMs.

Would you question the likes of Harmon, Leadbetter, Foley, Cowan, who say this swing technique will improve your game even tho they don't play on tour? Were they prolific in their playing days?

 

[Foxholer]

.....some people are good at thinking things for other people, such a short sighted way of looking at things, things work for different people. So confused at how someone could be so short sighted not to try something and see if it works for them. 'I'm not going to use Vokey wedges, because I saw Jordan Speith duff a chip with them'

Crazy

Well, narrow minded/blinkered.

Which seems very apt!

At least there's consistency!

 

[ScratchSRL]

Cheers Foxholer ill keep you posted, probably post a review tonight about how i get on with it.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I've never heard of him until 2 weeks ago from what I've read on here. I saw his wedges on his web site and thought yes, I want to see what this is about. He's not a qualified coach although he has a great ability to explain and teach and has designed a product that looks good and will certainly help my game then the generic products from the OEMs.

Would you question the likes of Harmon, Leadbetter, Foley, Cowan, who say this swing technique will improve your game even tho they don't play on tour? Were they prolific in their playing days?

Harmon , Leadbetter etc are fully qualified coaches to the top players in the world

They aren't club players playing to mid to high handicaps - they have the proof to back up their theories.

 

[ScratchSRL]

When was that said ?

It was hypothetical, pretty much the approach you are taking towards it, there are certain things where I would agree with your way of thinking, don't go to a dentist if he has bad teeth, don't get a tattoo from someone who has jack nicholson on his chest and it actually looks like sloth. But the thing I love about golf is the fact it doesnt, matter how good you are, your advice way of thinking could help anyone. And the gap between handicaps doesn't matter when it comes to that. Some people are good thinkers some people are do ers.

SRL

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It was hypothetical, pretty much the approach you are taking towards it, there are certain things where I would agree with your way of thinking, don't go to a dentist if he has bad teeth, don't get a tattoo from someone who has jack nicholson on his chest and it actually looks like sloth. But the thing I love about golf is the fact it doesnt, matter how good you are, your advice way of thinking could help anyone. And the gap between handicaps doesn't matter when it comes to that. Some people are good thinkers some people are do ers.

SRL

And I all asked was to show me when someone says "it works for me" how exactly it works for them to help me form a base then and if what was said then it's possibly something I would consider

But it appears asking how it works didn't go down well with some people and it appears it's a big crime with teddies going everywhere

I'm more than willing to try new things on a golf course - have done it plenty of times

Perfect example

Putter Grip - seen a FC start to rattle putts in from everywhere and improve his scoring with a bigger super stroke grip. Read reviews on here about how it had improved peoples putting and improved your scoring because of less putts - so went and got one for my putter and now can see the improvement in my putting

If you said in 6 months time this GRiP thing has helped you dramatically improve your scoring and dropped your scoring by 2 or 3 shots a round then it would be something I would look at.

If something is shown to improve people's game then it is something worth looking at

 

[Rooter]

so went and got one for my putter and now can see the improvement in my putting

Define your improvement Phil. or is it just a psychological one? I want numbers and stats!!