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Politics/life too complex for Joe Public?

Crazyface said:
I've figured it out. no matter who is in power they turn the screw on us "hard working families". Them at the top money wise find out how to hide it and not pay tax. Them at the bottom get money given to them, NHS pills and potions for free, will be looked after in old age, for free, in fact everything for free.
It's us in the middle that the money is taken from and will be for ever more. Once to realize this you can stop worrying who is actually in charge.
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And: the votes are not spend equal between the three sectors. It's likely that the dregs are a majority supported by the minority who has to pay up.
 
drdel said:
And: the votes are not spend equal between the three sectors. It's likely that the dregs are a majority supported by the minority who has to pay up.
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More insults, we wouldn't be in this mess if the minority at the top paid what was due, they owe far more than the minority at the bottom are fiddling.
Each are as bad as each other, but it's easier for you to knock some more than others.
 
pauldj42 said:
More insults, we wouldn't be in this mess if the minority at the top paid what was due, they owe far more than the minority at the bottom are fiddling.
Each are as bad as each other, but it's easier for you to knock some more than others.
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Playing devil's advocate, someone paying £80k in tax for a salary of £250k is already contributing £78k more than someone on £20k. I don't think someone on £20k should be paying any tax. Equally, taking £80k off someone is robbery.
 
Hobbit said:
Playing devil's advocate, someone paying £80k in tax for a salary of £250k is already contributing £78k more than someone on £20k. I don't think someone on £20k should be paying any tax. Equally, taking £80k off someone is robbery.
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I'm on about the amount of unpaid tax that HMRC is chasing, apologies if I confused you.
 
drdel said:
Is the average person too stupid?

I'd suggest that for a very large proportion of the UK population life is too complicated. People:
1. take drugs
2. smoke.
3. borrow money on credit cards at stupid rates
4. take out loans on cars with no idea of what they've signed and the future cost commitments
5. think 'they' (usually government) has limitless supply of money
6. TV soap characters are 'real'
7. believe politicians, newspapers, internet
8. write-off expert opinions on health, finance etc.
(add your own...)

We expect these idiots to vote and decide on complicated decisions and then moan when they mess up our little world ! Democracy is a problem when the unintelligent masses get hold of social media, YouTube and communicate with each other;

we need a dictator !

Sunny and hot so I'm off to chase a white ball for 4 hrs!
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With the best will in the world, based on some of your posts you seem to have believed a few papers or politicians. As have I. As long as people constructively analyse and question it and don't just confuse a comment piece or politically motivated headline with unbiased news then I don't think that makes people idiots. As as I said, if that was true then there are a fair few idiots on here as well. So we best stop voting. By the way, are you including the people who believed the £350 to the NHS bus thing in this as well?

And as for people smoking then really? Is that how you define an idiot who is apparently a bit stupid? einstein.jpg
 
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Hacker Khan said:
With the best will in the world, based on some of your posts you seem to have believed a few papers or politicians. As have I. As long as people constructively analyse and question it and don't just confuse a comment piece or politically motivated headline with unbiased news then I don't think that makes people idiots. As as I said, if that was true then there are a fair few idiots on here as well. So we best stop voting. By the way, are you including the people who believed the £350 to the NHS bus thing in this as well?

And as for people smoking then really? Is that how you define an idiot who is apparently a bit stupid? View attachment 22927
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Ah - the fella from Back to the Future - an idiot for smoking? I suppose it's all relative.
 
Hacker Khan said:
With the best will in the world, based on some of your posts you seem to have believed a few papers or politicians. As have I. As long as people constructively analyse and question it and don't just confuse a comment piece or politically motivated headline with unbiased news then I don't think that makes people idiots. As as I said, if that was true then there are a fair few idiots on here as well. So we best stop voting. By the way, are you including the people who believed the £350 to the NHS bus thing in this as well?

And as for people smoking then really? Is that how you define an idiot who is apparently a bit stupid? View attachment 22927
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You need to re-tune your 'wind-up' alert! Hint's in the title!
 
Wondering how many realise that the Labour Party 45% tax rate would mean someone earning £90k per annum paying £9.61 a week more tax. Not a big ask for those fortunate to be earning at that level.
 
Hobbit said:
Is life itself too complex? It's as complicated as we make it. However, I'd argue that the work life balance can be difficult. I'm on my second boss who doesn't think twice about ringing late afternoon and asking for figures or a presentation for 9am the following morning. Sometimes he gets a "no." But more often than not I'll be putting something together at midnight.
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Oh yes, the number of times just as you're about to close the laptop lid, does an email, skype message or phone call arrive ask for something quick, which 3hrs later has turned into a marathon and any plans for a personal life go out the window.
 
drdel said:
Is the average person too stupid?

I'd suggest that for a very large proportion of the UK population life is too complicated. People:
1. take drugs
2. smoke.
3. borrow money on credit cards at stupid rates
4. take out loans on cars with no idea of what they've signed and the future cost commitments
5. think 'they' (usually government) has limitless supply of money
6. TV soap characters are 'real'
7. believe politicians, newspapers, internet
8. write-off expert opinions on health, finance etc.
(add your own...)

We expect these idiots to vote and decide on complicated decisions and then moan when they mess up our little world ! Democracy is a problem when the unintelligent masses get hold of social media, YouTube and communicate with each other;

we need a dictator !

Sunny and hot so I'm off to chase a white ball for 4 hrs!
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How come you left off 'drink alcohol'?
 
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