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Is the average person too stupid?

I'd suggest that for a very large proportion of the UK population life is too complicated. People:
1. take drugs
2. smoke.
3. borrow money on credit cards at stupid rates
4. take out loans on cars with no idea of what they've signed and the future cost commitments
5. think 'they' (usually government) has limitless supply of money
6. TV soap characters are 'real'
7. believe politicians, newspapers, internet
8. write-off expert opinions on health, finance etc.
(add your own...)

We expect these idiots to vote and decide on complicated decisions and then moan when they mess up our little world ! Democracy is a problem when the unintelligent masses get hold of social media, YouTube and communicate with each other;

we need a dictator !

Sunny and hot so I'm off to chase a white ball for 4 hrs!
 
Well that's a starting post that goes straight for the throat.

Maybe you are being a bit unkind to the majority of the nation.

Yes there are people that fall into your categories but I would suggest they are very much in a minority - because of social media though they do get highlighted. I would also suggest that a great deal of people in the groups you mention prob can't be bothered to vote except the people that smoke I'm not sure what they have to do with voting ?

I guess it's called something when a moan about unintelligent masses on social media is posted on a social media forum
 
1, don't take drugs.
2, don't smoke, dirty disgusting habit.
3, Don't owe money on credit card.
4, owe three months on a car on 0% finance.
5, Don't think the government has an unlimited supply of money. think Governments have an irresponsible attitude spending to our money.
6, Soap characters are not real, but some I can relate to.
7, I believe in life experience, they have helped mould me. some poilticians, papers etc have hidden agendas.
8, Never ever written off advice of health and finance experts.

Even if they tell me what I don't want to hear.

After disagreeing with most of what you say, Life is still to complex 😁👍

Weathers nice so off for a walk up Mam Tor for four hours.
 
Tashyboy said:
1, don't take drugs.
2, don't smoke, dirty disgusting habit.
3, Don't owe money on credit card.
4, owe three months on a car on 0% finance.
5, Don't think the government has an unlimited supply of money. think Governments have an irresponsible attitude spending to our money.
6, Soap characters are not real, but some I can relate to.
7, I believe in life experience, they have helped mould me. some poilticians, papers etc have hidden agendas.
8, Never ever written off advice of health and finance experts.

Even if they tell me what I don't want to hear.

After disagreeing with most of what you say, Life is still to complex ����

Weathers nice so off for a walk up Mam Tor for four hours.
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Some nice walks around there Tash,
 
One of the reasons we have representive politics is so that some else who has time to dedicate to forming policies and making decisions does the complex stuff for us. Is Joe Public too thick to understand? No. Joe Public understands as much as each individual wants to. A lot of that understanding comes from what they experience.

Is life itself too complex? It's as complicated as we make it. However, I'd argue that the work life balance can be difficult. I'm on my second boss who doesn't think twice about ringing late afternoon and asking for figures or a presentation for 9am the following morning. Sometimes he gets a "no." But more often than not I'll be putting something together at midnight.
 
"write off expert opinions on finance"

yep, regularly, and will continue to do so based on some of the misleading garbage that gets written by so called experts
 
Agree with the title but not all the post.

How on earth should a green thinking, remain voting, hard brexit accepting (in or out, nothing in beteeen) conservative feeling person vote?
 
drdel said:
Is the average person too stupid?

I'd suggest that for a very large proportion of the UK population life is too complicated. People:
1. take drugs
2. smoke.
3. borrow money on credit cards at stupid rates
4. take out loans on cars with no idea of what they've signed and the future cost commitments
5. think 'they' (usually government) has limitless supply of money
6. TV soap characters are 'real'
7. believe politicians, newspapers, internet
8. write-off expert opinions on health, finance etc.
(add your own...)

We expect these idiots to vote and decide on complicated decisions and then moan when they mess up our little world ! Democracy is a problem when the unintelligent masses get hold of social media, YouTube and communicate with each other;

we need a dictator !

Sunny and hot so I'm off to chase a white ball for 4 hrs!
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The people you have listed are the ones who are Oxbridge educated.

We should convince them they have no right of entitlement and get them to understand what real working/middle class life is like.
 
I'm just so grateful we have an open, honest and unbiased free press to give us all the information we need to help us make those challenging life choices;)
 
drdel said:
Is the average person too stupid?

I'd suggest that for a very large proportion of the UK population life is too complicated. People:
1. take drugs
2. smoke.
3. borrow money on credit cards at stupid rates
4. take out loans on cars with no idea of what they've signed and the future cost commitments
5. think 'they' (usually government) has limitless supply of money
6. TV soap characters are 'real'
7. believe politicians, newspapers, internet
8. write-off expert opinions on health, finance etc.
(add your own...)

We expect these idiots to vote and decide on complicated decisions and then moan when they mess up our little world ! Democracy is a problem when the unintelligent masses get hold of social media, YouTube and communicate with each other;

we need a dictator !

Sunny and hot so I'm off to chase a white ball for 4 hrs!
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Well... we might get a Marxist in Number 10 soon. Be careful what you wish for
 
Politicians rely on and play on our stupidity or fear/anxieties (or both) and have been for ever. An educated voter is a dangerous voter. You only have to look at manifestos and promises. They rely on people believing this nonsense. The masses must be kept in the dark otherwise they might rebel :)
 
I've figured it out. no matter who is in power they turn the screw on us "hard working families". Them at the top money wise find out how to hide it and not pay tax. Them at the bottom get money given to them, NHS pills and potions for free, will be looked after in old age, for free, in fact everything for free.
It's us in the middle that the money is taken from and will be for ever more. Once to realize this you can stop worrying who is actually in charge.
 
Crazyface said:
I've figured it out. no matter who is in power they turn the screw on us "hard working families". Them at the top money wise find out how to hide it and not pay tax. Them at the bottom get money given to them, NHS pills and potions for free, will be looked after in old age, for free, in fact everything for free.
It's us in the middle that the money is taken from and will be for ever more. Once to realize this you can stop worrying who is actually in charge.
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Is, I fear, the right answer !!
 
Crazyface said:
I've figured it out. no matter who is in power they turn the screw on us "hard working families". Them at the top money wise find out how to hide it and not pay tax. Them at the bottom get money given to them, NHS pills and potions for free, will be looked after in old age, for free, in fact everything for free.
It's us in the middle that the money is taken from and will be for ever more. Once to realize this you can stop worrying who is actually in charge.
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Maybe it's a good job some of those in the middle are willing to stand up for what they believe in rather than them moaning about the above and below who give up.
 
pauldj42 said:
Maybe it's a good job some of those in the middle are willing to stand up for what they believe in rather than them moaning about the above and below who give up.
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But he is right, even if some of us care passionately about looking after the disadvantaged and the weak. Each party offers a bit more at each election, or something a bit different. It's become a spiral election after election. But who funds it? Can't take it from the poor, and the rich don't really feel the pinch....the middle feel it every time.

For me, raise the tax allowance before tax is applied. Then 2% more off everyone. There will be a critical mass number that will work.
 
I'd keep it simple and set tax at 10% on ALL income... And, I reckon that would leave us not too short of what the nation would need to pay its way... Unfortunately though, the already rich and big business would still absolutely do its best to not pay its share... Taxing those at the top remains an impossible dream... I genuinely feel they believe they can take it with them to the afterlife...
 
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