Playing in first match - what constitutes advice?

[sfby]

Hi,

I'm playing in my first club match in a couple of weeks(informal & friendly, though I don't know yet if my team mates see it that way!). Our first game is at home & I'll be playing in a 3-ball against players from 2 other local clubs.

In the spirit of camaraderie, am I allowed to tell them if a hole is "dog-leg right" or "there's a water hazard over that hill", or would that be advice & thus penalties?

TIA for any help

 

[Swinger]

You are allowed to tell them about (distance, shape, cambers, roll offs) the hole and any potential dangers on the hole - factual information

You should not suggest lines to take, shots to play and clubs to hit.

Not too sure about the line in total honesty as could be a pain on bind holes etc but can see there may be a problem with it.

 

[beggsy]

do as i do in any match at my place agaist other clubs only give them the advice if they ask

 

[richart]

do as i do in any match at my place agaist other clubs only give them the advice if they ask

Point out all the trouble, out of bounds, ponds, ditches etc. Why should you be the only one to worry about them.

 

[MashieNiblick]

Rules of Golf Definition

"Advice

"Advice" is any counsel or suggestion that could influence a player in determining his play, the choice of a club or the method of making a stroke.

Information on the Rules, distance or matters of public information, such as the position of hazards or the flagstick on the putting green, is not advice."


So information about the layout of a hole, i.e. "this is a dog leg left" or "that bunker is 200 yards from the tee" is ok.

What you can't say is "this is a dog leg left so hit a three wood from the tee" or "take an iron to lay up short of the bunker".

In a team match though (i.e. 4BBB match play) you can give your partner advice.

 

[Smiffy]

Point out all the trouble, out of bounds, ponds, ditches etc. Why should you be the only one to worry about them.

Absolutely spot on.
And as one of them (preferably the "danger man") is standing on the tee addressing the ball, say something along the lines of "you don't want to come over the top on this one. My mate did that the other day and he lost three balls in that gorse bush on the left".
You are not giving advice, just a warning.
It's up to him if he takes notice of it....trust me. He will.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Rules of Golf Definition

"Advice

"Advice" is any counsel or suggestion that could influence a player in determining his play, the choice of a club or the method of making a stroke.

Information on the Rules, distance or matters of public information, such as the position of hazards or the flagstick on the putting green, is not advice."


So information about the layout of a hole, i.e. "this is a dog leg left" or "that bunker is 200 yards from the tee" is ok.

What you can't say is "this is a dog leg left so hit a three wood from the tee" or "take an iron to lay up short of the bunker".

In a team match though (i.e. 4BBB match play) you can give your partner advice.

I would ask them if they wanted your advice first. They might have played at your place before and kow the layout and so would rather not be given nay help.

 

[Up_Point_1]

As mentioned above offer some advice on the general hole layout if you're asked for it. If not then keep stum. As this is a friendly match i'd imagine it'll be a relatively relaxed affair and you'll soon work it out.

Can't imagine it'll be like some of the scratch foursome team matches I've played in where your oppo's wont speak to you from start to finish, other than to give you a putt

UP1.

 

[Whereditgo]

Absolutely spot on.
And as one of them (preferably the "danger man") is standing on the tee addressing the ball, say something along the lines of "you don't want to come over the top on this one. My mate did that the other day and he lost three balls in that gorse bush on the left".
You are not giving advice, just a warning.
It's up to him if he takes notice of it....trust me. He will.

I'm wearing earplugs at Woodhall Spa on the back of that!

 

[Smiffy]

I'm wearing earplugs at Woodhall Spa on the back of that!

I wouldn't dare do it to you Geezer.
Trust me.