Old Skier
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Seems like there are a few who feel that it is fair to continue to take comp entry money of those who don't have a hope in hell of winning anything.
Players getting seven 0.1's back have their H/cap reviewed, says CONGU
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rosecott
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No, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that it is not appropriate for the Handicap Committee to ask the player if he/she minds if we increase his/her handicap. The committee should be making a decision and notifying the player. We had this on the first Annual Review following the setting up of a joint Handicap Committee. When suggested increases for some ladies was being discussed, the lady members of the committee said "she won't want/like her handicap going up, shouldn't we ask her if that's OK?".
ESR's are, of course, now mandatory.
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What about Cat1 ?
Ive a mate who started the season on 3, ten straight 0.1 still cat1 would you advocate them going up and having a couple of shots added?
Ive a mate who started the season on 3, ten straight 0.1 still cat1 would you advocate them going up and having a couple of shots added?
2blue
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Aye.... think we are largely down this route.... seems to make sense.
Don't think Cat 1's are included in this Patrick.... they're in a world of their own 😳
duncan mackie
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Mandatory is mandatory; advisory means that the club should apply it unless they have a good reason not to.
Players deliberately building handicaps will do so regardless of the system. Clubs/committees should deal with them outside the system.
duncan mackie
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Good that you still have that list. Hope you have at least ticked off the one about the system failing to keep up with senior golfers needs for increase indicated by constant failure to even make buffer (I paraphrase about 50 of your posts here and elsewhere over the last 6 years)
The CSS for Seniors comps at our club is almost always higher than in general club comps, which suggests that fewer seniors make the buffer zone. About half our seniors comps so far this year have been 'Reductions Only', which not only stops them getting 0.1's, but also don't count towards the review process!
bladeplayer
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I got 7 at start of year , ive played a good bit with Handicap sec , he was aware I was changing a few things in my swing to get lower (not working) so I think he be afraid id burn his house down if he gave me a shot back
duncan mackie
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What this really 'suggests' is that generally the seniors have weak handicaps and should be increased....which is what this is doing!
The only other possibility is that the course isn't being maintained as rated.
Either situation can be dealt with (AR or greens committee)
Yes many of our senior golfers probably do have 'weak' handicaps. However, because we have had so many R/O comps this year, the 0.1 increases are not being applied and the mechanism for providing a handicap review is not being triggered. The only senior I know who has had such a review and a 1 shot increase is a 7-day member who regularly plays in general weekend club competitions, where CSS is usually close to the course SSS. Most of our seniors are 5-day members and only play in seniors comps, with only one or two qualifiers per month, a fair percentage of which have been R/O's. Our course is in very nice condition, so that is not a factor.
duncan mackie
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All of which suggests the handicap committee aren't doing anyone any favours by not doing a more through review of this group. If you have the number of CSS +3 RO results you suggest then the computer review simply isn't enough - they should be reviewing every senior member rather than just the flagged ones.
