Ping G440 fairway woods….how much???🤯

[Pin-seeker]

 

[Imurg]

It is a lot but it is the LS version which is a completely different construction/materials to the standard ones....and , to be fair, very few people are going to be able to get the best out of them...

P.us........you don't have to buy it...

 

[slicer79]

Unbelievable, it's gone crazy.

My current irons are Cleveland cg7 tours, 4-PW purchased at start of 2011 for £520. I know that's a bit ago at this stage but it's amazing how things have increased in that time. £500 doesn't go far nowadays

 

[Neilds]

Hope all the new clubs are launched soon so we can put an end to all the ‘how much’ threads

 

[Bunkermagnet]

From what I have watched, the TM, Callaway and Ping new offerings are all the same price

 

[VVega]

Clickbait thumbnail, “on the shelf” price is £329 for standard and £499 for lst. Nevertheless, the prices are through the roof…

No surprise businesses like gc4c are flourishing.

 

[pokerjoke]

The way Rick hit the Max that could be popular.
The LST I think he’s just about put it in the bargain bucket already.

 

[VVega]

The LST I think he’s just about put it in the bargain bucket already.

Odd to dismiss the club just because he couldn’t hit it.

FWIW, the LST face is made from titanium (as most drivers are) which is undoubtedly a superior material. Wish they had it in other woods.

Here is an explainer by Wishon in his book as a reference:

Why are there so few titanium fairway woods? The main reason is that club companies have found golfers like you will pay $300-$500 for that one big stick, but you won’t pay that much times two, three or four. So they make steel fairway woods to go with titanium drivers primarily to ease the strain on your wallet and ensure they will still sell a boatload of units.

 

[Crow]

Odd to dismiss the club just because he couldn’t hit it.

FWIW, the LST face is made from titanium (as most drivers are) which is undoubtedly a superior material. Wish they had it in other woods.

Here is an explainer by Wishon in his book as a reference:

I always understood the primary use of titanium was to control the weight of burgeoning driver heads, fairway woods weren't growing in size so steel was fine, steel can be produced in many different guises so making an effective face would be easy.

If fairway woods are now also growing in size to the point where heads are becoming too heavy then I can see why titanium would be a benefit.

 

[VVega]

I always understood the primary use of titanium was to control the weight of burgeoning driver heads, fairway woods weren't growing in size so steel was fine, steel can be produced in many different guises so making an effective face would be easy.

If fairway woods are now also growing in size to the point where heads are becoming too heavy then I can see why titanium would be a benefit.

To the first point - no easy but feasible. To the second point is along the right lines but it’s more than just weight distribution. Overall, titanium is still a superior material full stop.

FWIW, another quote from Wishon:

The answer mainly has to do with not wanting to include a pair of earplugs to go with a hollow driver made from a high strength steel alloy. CLANG!! While there certainly are some titanium drivers with a loud impact sound, the sound of impact with a larg-ish, hollow steel driver head would literally be ear-splitting resulting in a howl from every dog within a one-mile radius.

Certain titanium alloys possess a better combination of strength plus elasticity than do almost all steel alloys. Higher ball speed is all about allowing the face to flex inward as much as possible without caving in or breaking. But, some designers have figured out how to design faces from a special group of steel alloys which are given the collective name of “high-strength steels” which can achieve the same high ball speeds from increased face flexing as well.

So why is titanium and not high-strength steel used to make virtually all the drivers today? No, it’s not because the club companies always want to charge more money for their drivers; nor is it because of the ear-splitting sound that would emanate from a hollow steel driver. The main reason is because BIG is very IN. Besides being really good for strength and stretchability, titanium also is lighter than steel for the same size piece of the metal. In material terms, that’s called having a lower density. Because titanium alloys all have a lower density than any steel alloy, designers can use titanium to make bigger driver heads and not have to worry about the heads caving in when we thrash at the ball.

 

[KenL]

Odd to dismiss the club just because he couldn’t hit it.

FWIW, the LST face is made from titanium (as most drivers are) which is undoubtedly a superior material. Wish they had it in other woods.

Here is an explainer by Wishon in his book as a reference:

Does a few square cm of titanium warrant the huge uplift in cost?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

oooh...hmmm...not now so sure about getting a Ping G440 5h...

 

[KenL]

To the first point - no easy but feasible. To the second point is along the right lines but it’s more than just weight distribution. Overall, titanium is still a superior material full stop.

FWIW, another quote from Wishon:

Did Wishon not go bust?

 

[VVega]

Did Wishon not go bust?

Relevant how? Regardless the performance of any associated business entity he is probably the most respected club designer/maker.

Either way - no, he is still active:

Wishon Golf | Your Fit Matters | Premium Designs For Golf

Wishon’s expertly engineered designs are exclusively for clubfitters and clubmakers – so they can be custom fit to only you and your swing.

wishongolf.com

 

[KenL]

Relevant how? Regardless the performance of any associated business entity he is probably the most respected club designer/maker.

Either way - no, he is still active:

Wishon Golf | Your Fit Matters | Premium Designs For Golf

Wishon’s expertly engineered designs are exclusively for clubfitters and clubmakers – so they can be custom fit to only you and your swing.

wishongolf.com

about 10 years ago they used to fit them at my club.

The general opinion of those who had them was that they weren’t great. The drivers especially were poor.

 

[Crow]

To the first point - no easy but feasible. To the second point is along the right lines but it’s more than just weight distribution. Overall, titanium is still a superior material full stop.

FWIW, another quote from Wishon:

So Wishon basically agrees with what I said.

"Certain titanium alloys possess a better combination of strength plus elasticity than do almost all steel alloys."

So if you select suitable alloys for the job, titanium and steel both work.

Higher ball speed is all about allowing the face to flex inward as much as possible without caving in or breaking. But, some designers have figured out how to design faces from a special group of steel alloys which are given the collective name of “high-strength steels” which can achieve the same high ball speeds from increased face flexing as well

And then goes on to say it's to keep the weight down.
We concur!

 

[Orikoru]

I can't imagine they sell many LSTs anyway. I know Rick isn't the greatest pro golfer in the world and has admitted he struggles with fairway woods - but he's still pretty damn good, and when even he struggles to hit the thing then it makes you wonder who it's for. Maybe more use as a teeing club, I don't know. But outside of tour pros I can't imagine you'll see this in many people's bags - even without the high price.

 

[patricks148]

i am in the market for a new 3 wood, luckily i can stick to not playing with my old one a bit longer

 

[VVega]

i am in the market for a new 3 wood, luckily i can stick to not playing with my old one a bit longer

I was just thinking along the same lines. Have a 4w in the bag, shots hit with it in the latest round - 0. More of a backup for if the driver swing falls apart