Paris under attack

[User20205]

If they are in ISIS controlled strongholds then they are collateral damage.

nice 'collateral damage' you sound like Donald Rumsfeld.

You'd be happy if kids were killed in your name?

 

[Val]

nice 'collateral damage' you sound like Donald Rumsfeld.

You'd be happy if kids were killed in your name?

My kids dont support terrorists who are undermining the freedom of the world WE ALL live in.

 

[User20205]

What response do you suggest?

it's not easy, no one says it is. There has to be a raft of measures taken, one of which includes military action. There will be inevitable compromise with the Russians, Assad & the Iranians. It won't taste very nice

Just bombing them with cruise missiles and (un)smart bombs will only at best defer the problem.

 

[User20205]

My kids dont support terrorists who are undermining the freedom of the world WE ALL live in.

that is you Donald

You think that everyone living in Mosul is part of IS, ISIL ????

 

[Deleted member 16999]

that is you Donald

You think that everyone living in Mosul is part of IS, ISIL ????

Was everyone in the Twin Towers a Christian?
Abhor the killing of innocents in any circumstance and were possible every attempt should be made to reduce or remove the risk, but what else do these animals understand, maybe it's time we used their rules against them.

 

[Val]

that is you Donald

You think that everyone living in Mosul is part of IS, ISIL ????

No, was everyone attacked in Paris last week anti Islam?

 

[User20205]

Was everyone in the Twin Towers a Christian?
Abhor the killing of innocents in any circumstance and were possible every attempt should be made to reduce or remove the risk, but what else do these animals understand, maybe it's time we used their rules against them.

No, was everyone attacked in Paris last week anti Islam?

I don't imagine any were

I don't see the logic in your argument. How does the above mean that innocent children should be bombed, just because of geography?

You'd avenge the murder of innocents in Paris by Killing innocents in Iraq and Syria??

 

[Val]

I don't imagine any were

I don't see the logic in your argument. How does the above mean that innocent children should be bombed, just because of geography?

You'd avenge the murder of innocents in Paris by Killing innocents in Iraq and Syria??

No one is bombing innocents.

What is your solution? You can't talk to those who can't be spoken to and if you do nothing you can stand and watch the carnage?

 

[Hacker Khan]

Was everyone in the Twin Towers a Christian?
Abhor the killing of innocents in any circumstance and were possible every attempt should be made to reduce or remove the risk, but what else do these animals understand, maybe it's time we used their rules against them.

Yup, what can possibly go wrong with humanity reducing itself to the lowest common denominator and performing all sorts of atrocities to teach someone a lesson. May be we can then have a 'who can perform the worst atrocity' international It's a Knockout competition?

 

[User20205]

No one is bombing innocents.

What is your solution? You can't talk to those who can't be spoken to and if you do nothing you can stand and watch the carnage?

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world...ng-isis-in-syria-liveshot-paton-walsh-wrn.cnn

it's ok because it collateral remember.

My solution, the only solution involves getting dirty, not pressing a button from 100k away, but no one has the stomach for that.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Is there any alternatives to military action ?

 

[Val]

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world...ng-isis-in-syria-liveshot-paton-walsh-wrn.cnn

it's ok because it collateral remember.

My solution, the only solution involves getting dirty, not pressing a button from 100k away, but no one has the stomach for that.

By that I assume boots on the ground face to face?

 

[User20205]

By that I assume boots on the ground face to face?

maybe not us, as I don't think we could manage the job, if there was every a need for a coalition like gulf war 1 it's now.

They problem being that, we can't Govern, we have shown that, and the current set up in Iraq & Syria isn't fit for purpose.

Iraq has been a vacuum since the US withdrawl and Syria is a proper mess.

We may have to back & support militarily & economically some pretty unpleasant characters just to rid ourselves of the current threat

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Yup, what can possibly go wrong with humanity reducing itself to the lowest common denominator and performing all sorts of atrocities to teach someone a lesson. May be we can then have a 'who can perform the worst atrocity' international It's a Knockout competition?

Nice highlight of one part, it's not only killings they use is it! You've said atrocities not me, there is also threat or moving populations, imprisonment, removing their human rights and everyone who supports them, I'm not on about suicide attacks,
Enough of the softly softly approach of what we can and can't do.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world...ng-isis-in-syria-liveshot-paton-walsh-wrn.cnn

it's ok because it collateral remember.

My solution, the only solution involves getting dirty, not pressing a button from 100k away, but no one has the stomach for that.

We already have Troops on the ground getting dirty, what do you think IS would do if we sent a coalition army in? Line up in trenches against us? No they'd melt in to the background until we'd had enough and come home, then reappear, this is not a conventional warfare,
Where after Syria/Iraq? Libya or Nigeria or .........

 

[FairwayDodger]

What about Saudi?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

If they are in ISIS controlled strongholds then they are collateral damage.

That's alright then. No wonder the Syrians are getting out and heading Europe's way. We'll bomb Daesh targets in Syria and if innocent civilian Syrians get killed or hurt - then tough - they shouldn't have been there. Ah - but we've sent them back.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Yup, what can possibly go wrong with humanity reducing itself to the lowest common denominator and performing all sorts of atrocities to teach someone a lesson. May be we can then have a 'who can perform the worst atrocity' international It's a Knockout competition?

where is yoghurt and my knitting needles

 

[Deleted member 15344]

That's alright then. No wonder the Syrians are getting out and heading Europe's way. We'll bomb Daesh targets in Syria and if innocent civilian Syrians get killed or hurt - then tough - they shouldn't have been there. Ah - but we've sent them back.

What is your answer to the problem then ?

Air strikes are always a part of a strategy - they aren't just dropping bombs on random targets - the areas are targeting for a reason.

 

[User20205]

We already have Troops on the ground getting dirty, what do you think IS would do if we sent a coalition army in? Line up in trenches against us? No they'd melt in to the background until we'd had enough and come home, then reappear, this is not a conventional warfare,
Where after Syria/Iraq? Libya or Nigeria or .........

you're the fella with the military background what do you suggest?