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Oh No!! Not the 'I' Word again.

Crazyface said:
If they were highly skilled and intelligent then they would have been able to figure out how to combat the people that are running their country. They aren't, so they are running away. Why should Europe take them in? Do you really want to live in Britain where most can't speak English and wave their own national flag at us????? Well do you?????
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As much as I don't like rubbish shows like the xfactor, I would pay good money to put people like yourself on an island with a load of refugees/immigrants. We could then vote on which people we wanted back in the country. (Hint, I don't think you'd make the cut)
 
Ethan said:
Note that people born abroad may be British Nationals.

Boris Johnston (New York), Emma Watson (Paris), Bradley Wiggins (Ghent) and many others.

The provision of public services is helped when immigrants are working age wage earners, then they pay tax, probably don't consume much service and help balance the demographic slide towards more retired people than workers. If you want to help public services, get rid of the old people. They are the ones who consume resources.
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May be tongue in cheek Ethan but as an 'old' person who has contributed significantly over the years into the system, I object. There is a lot of carp talked about the 'old' soaking up benefits etc.
In reality most of my age group did exceptionally well financially and have provided for themselves far more adeptly than any subsequent generation may be able to.
I still pay a significant amount of UK tax, despite having been retired since I was 52. I have also funded myself privately, for the various nips and tucks that old age requires, to avoid the pitiful waiting lists of our third world state services. In the main the same is true amongst a significant number of my peers.

Just glad I am also able to avoid all this UK migrant nonsense, by migrating myself to spend my ill gotten in a country that still values its identity.
 
CheltenhamHacker said:
As much as I don't like rubbish shows like the xfactor, I would pay good money to put people like yourself on an island with a load of refugees/immigrants. We could then vote on which people we wanted back in the country. (Hint, I don't think you'd make the cut)
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So, a guy makes a comment, that is quite typical about the fears a lot of people have about the type of migrant we may be obliged to take in - and you decide to personally attack him!!!!!

I thought there was a code of conduct in here? :angry:
 
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The Green Fairy said:
So, a guy makes a comment, that is quite typical about the fears a lot of people have about the type of migrant we may be obliged to take in - and you decide to personally attack him!!!!!

I thought there was a code of conduct in here? :angry:
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The comments crazyface has made is an uneducated disgrace and you want to make a point against someone else, give your head a shake!
 
The Green Fairy said:
So, a guy makes a comment, that is quite typical about the fears a lot of people have about the type of migrant we may be obliged to take in - and you decide to personally attack him!!!!!

I thought there was a code of conduct in here? :angry:
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Your GM mates comment was fairly stupid though.. I admire your defence of your friend though....
 
londonlewis said:
I'm not entirely sure how to reply to this or why you felt it was important to write in the first place?

It's impossible to reason with you Tashy, you've obviously decided that the EU has nothing to offer you. What do you have to offer the EU?
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Firstly what I had ( note had, not have ) was 36 years labour in coal mines with a few more left but that choice was taken away. Not a single penny claimed in unemployment benefit and not a penny claimed since retiring 3 weeks ago in Jobseeker's Allowance as I now claim a pension. I could be wrong but a large lump of my contributions went to the European Union. My beloved Missis Tash has paid another 35 years tax etc by nursing, she has 18 months left. Me/We collectively the Tash household through my son working as a class one lorry driver and My daughter being a copper in Sheffield city centre ( don't get me started on what she has to deal with re immigration)have given more than our fair share to the EU and what have we got back......

yup up that's tumble weed you can hear. Diddly squat.

So as a retired fossil I am more than entitled to ask what the EU is doing for me/us. And by that I mean all of us.
At the very least, I would expect for all the EU countries to get together very very soon and try to get this mess sorted and at least sing from the same song sheet. But guess what Our great European Union cannot agree between themselves what to do. What kind of a Union is that.
 
Crazyface said:
If they were highly skilled and intelligent then they would have been able to figure out how to combat the people that are running their country. They aren't, so they are running away. Why should Europe take them in? Do you really want to live in Britain where most can't speak English and wave their own national flag at us????? Well do you?????
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Sad and ignorant
 
bluewolf said:
My grandparents couldn't speak English when they fled Germany after WW2. Maybe they should have been turned away? Plenty tried. My grandmother was physically and mentally abused when travelling from London to Manchester on the train. She was spat at, kicked and shoved. I thought we'd moved on from that. Thanks for educating me.
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I wish we could award 'wisdom' for posts like I can on another forum I frequent.


Well said, Danny.

The fact there's still people who think like that is both terrifying and depressing in equal measure.
 
Challenge the statements made my posters by all means but what you have done here is exactly what you are accusing the poster of.
You have made a decision about him, based on his statement. That is soooooooo wrong and so typical.

The reason we are being well and truly screwed, in this country, is because when people call it what it is, they get pilloried by those that a prone to be 'offended' at every tiny, non-politically correct thing.

We may have an opinion, good or bad and last time I checked, there was not a restriction on that.

Get over it.
 
The Green Fairy said:
Challenge the statements made my posters by all means but what you have done here is exactly what you are accusing the poster of.
You have made a decision about him, based on his statement. That is soooooooo wrong and so typical.

The reason we are being well and truly screwed, in this country, is because when people call it what it is, they get pilloried by those that a prone to be 'offended' at every tiny, non-politically correct thing.

We may have an opinion, good or bad and last time I checked, there was not a restriction on that.

Get over it.
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You're entitled to hold whatever opinion you want.. I'm entitled to think, and say, that that opinion is wrong/stupid/ignorant/xenophobic etc etc etc.. Don't argue in favour of freedom of speech if you only want it to work in your favour...
 
Here is an opinion of mine.

The sad images of a small child being carried out of the sea, dead were shocking. Questions are being asked about how guilty we feel about this state of affairs.

I do not feel guilty, not at all. The child had parents - they should be jailed for life. I would have died to save a child of mine, not the other way round.
 
The Green Fairy said:
Here is an opinion of mine.

The sad images of a small child being carried out of the sea, dead were shocking. Questions are being asked about how guilty we feel about this state of affairs.

I do not feel guilty, not at all. The child had parents - they should be jailed for life. I would have died to save a child of mine, not the other way round.
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More ignorance, his mother did and died the father tried to save them both and now has to live with himself as he failed,
 
The Green Fairy said:
Here is an opinion of mine.

The sad images of a small child being carried out of the sea, dead were shocking. Questions are being asked about how guilty we feel about this state of affairs.

I do not feel guilty, not at all. The child had parents - they should be jailed for life. I would have died to save a child of mine, not the other way round.
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You know literally nothing about the situation do you?

Enjoy yourself in Australia.. A country that apparently "still has a national identity".. Such a shame that that national identity is not the one of the indigenous population...
 
The Green Fairy said:
They put their child in danger by attempting the crossing, they knew the risks.
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So not an actual answer, just more meaningless words, maybe admitting you got the facts wrong, regardless of how you feel, would of been more fitting.
 
bluewolf said:
You know literally nothing about the situation do you?

Enjoy yourself in Australia.. A country that apparently "still has a national identity".. Such a shame that that national identity is not the one of the indigenous population...
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Pathetic, the usual diatribe from simple souls who have probably never been there, just seen a documentary or two.
 
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