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Oh No!! Not the 'I' Word again.

Immigrants with cars, wow they must be doing well.:o

I find it 'interesting' listening to reporters saying either immigrants, migrants or refugees.
I swear one used all three in a two minute report about the same group.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Immigrants with cars, wow they must be doing well.:o

I find it 'interesting' listening to reporters saying either immigrants, migrants or refugees.
I swear one used all three in a two minute report about the same group.
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Immigrants with cars? He's not talking about asylum seekers..

Syrian 'Refugees' are trying to 'Migrate' to Germany who have decided to accept more 'immigrants'
 
SocketRocket said:
A solution. Heres one. Reduce the number of legal immigrants we take into the UK from countries that are not war zones and increase the number from places like syria. We cant take them all.
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I don't think anyone has ever suggested that we take them all

So how do you reduce the numbers ? What's the master plan ? Do you cherry pick ? Have a certain number where there is a cut off ? Can you expand on your grand plan to sort out the problem you think there is regarding immigration
Regarding your other comments. You just dont read whats being said and keep repeating the same old balderdash.
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it appears you are looking in a mirror with comments like that - are you suggesting that you haven't constantly gone on about immigration over the last couple of years ?
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I don't think anyone has ever suggested that we take them all

So how do you reduce the numbers ? What's the master plan ? Do you cherry pick ? Have a certain number where there is a cut off ? Can you expand on your grand plan to sort out the problem you think there is regarding immigration


it appears you are looking in a mirror with comments like that - are you suggesting that you haven't constantly gone on about immigration over the last couple of years ?
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It's pretty obvious how you do it. We cant currently control immigration from the EU but we can from the rest of the world. We put a cap on these and offer a similar number of genuine refugees these places. Simples! It's not a grand plan to sort out immigration but an effort to offer humanitarian assistance to the people of Syria.


Over the last couple of years there have been a number of threads on immigration, most of them not started by me, I may have started one or two, this being one of them. I have commented on these threads giving my point of view to which I believe I am entitled to. Would you feel more content if I held the same views as you, or do you take the normal liberal elite left wing view that anyone with a different view are stupid and mentally subnormal.
 
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SocketRocket said:
It's pretty obvious how you do it. We cant currently control immigration from the EU but we can from the rest of the world. We put a cap on these and offer a similar number of genuine refugees these places. Simples! It's not a grand plan to sort out immigration but an effort to offer humanitarian assistance to the people of Syria.


Over the last couple of years there have been a number of threads on immigration, most of them not started by me, I may have started one or two, this being one of them. I have commented on these threads giving my point of view to which I believe I am entitled to. Would you feel more content if I held the same views as you or do you take the normal liberal elite left wing view that anyone with a different view are stupid and mentally subnormal.
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Do we not control migration from outside the EU already then ? Do people from outside the EU not have to jump through hoops to come to the UK ? Do they not come here to work and contribute. What is the cap you want to impose - name a figure ?

I'm guessing there is a breakdown on the numbers from outside the EU that you can show me which highlights the amount from the EU and outside the EU
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Do we not control migration from outside the EU already then ? Do people from outside the EU not have to jump through hoops to come to the UK ? Do they not come here to work and contribute. What is the cap you want to impose - name a figure ?

I'm guessing there is a breakdown on the numbers from outside the EU that you can show me which highlights the amount from the EU and outside the EU
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Look up the numbers yourself if you want them.

The cap will be the amount of additional Syrian refugees we take in. Don't you read posts?

Come on then. Tell me exactly how we should deal with the situation, how many immigrants we should have in the UK annually. You like to comment on other people posts but seem very weak on ideas. Come on surprise me with your insight!
 
SocketRocket said:
The cap will be the amount of additional Syrian refugees we take in. Don't you read posts?

Come on then. Tell me exactly how we should deal with the situation, how many immigrants we should have in the UK annually. You like to comment on other people posts but seem very weak on ideas. Come on surprise me with your insight!
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So is there a breakdown ? Every time someone asks you to provide some facts to back up the statements you ignore the requests - why is that ?

You seem to have ignored the crux of what I was asking you ?

I don't believe there to be a problem so why would I need to come up with ideas ?

I see no reason why we can't offer funding to help refugees and places within the country for them - which is exactly what we appear to be doing

I don't see a reason for us to sacrifice other immigrants who arrive to the country with the aim to contribute and build a life here

You see I'm in the opinion that no one owns the land we walk on and people should be able to build a life and a home where they wish
 
There must be plenty of room in Poland for these poor refugees because all the Poles are over here ;)
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So is there a breakdown ? Every time someone asks you to provide some facts to back up the statements you ignore the requests - why is that ?

You seem to have ignored the crux of what I was asking you ?

I don't believe there to be a problem so why would I need to come up with ideas ?

I see no reason why we can't offer funding to help refugees and places within the country for them - which is exactly what we appear to be doing

I don't see a reason for us to sacrifice other immigrants who arrive to the country with the aim to contribute and build a life here

You see I'm in the opinion that no one owns the land we walk on and people should be able to build a life and a home where they wish
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So you are suggesting open borders and unfettered immigration?
 
This thread got me thinking of old tv comedy shows.........



Alf Garnett: Well, I mean, see if we go into Europe...

Else Garnett: I thought we was in Europe. I mean, I thought we always have been.

Alf Garnett: I know that, yer silly moo. I'm not talking about that aspect am I? I'm talking about the Common Market aspect of the going into Europe.

Alf Garnett: Old Enoch's against it, in't 'e, eh? He don't want no more bloody foreigners over here. We got enough bloody foreigners here as it is. Bloody country's swarming with Eities and Krauts and Froggies and Spagnollies and Brussel Sprouts. All coming over here and taking our jobs off of us, aren't they?

Else Garnett: Well, we can go over there and take the jobs off of them.

Alf Garnett: I don't want to go over there, do I?

Else Garnett: Wish you would.



........can't think why. :whistle:
 
SocketRocket said:
So you are suggesting open borders and unfettered immigration?
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Nope can't see where I suggest that ?

I see no reason why we as a country cannot do our bit and helping out our fellow humans and continue our current level of immigration
 
c1973 said:
This thread got me thinking of old tv comedy shows.........



Alf Garnett: Well, I mean, see if we go into Europe...

Else Garnett: I thought we was in Europe. I mean, I thought we always have been.

Alf Garnett: I know that, yer silly moo. I'm not talking about that aspect am I? I'm talking about the Common Market aspect of the going into Europe.

Alf Garnett: Old Enoch's against it, in't 'e, eh? He don't want no more bloody foreigners over here. We got enough bloody foreigners here as it is. Bloody country's swarming with Eities and Krauts and Froggies and Spagnollies and Brussel Sprouts. All coming over here and taking our jobs off of us, aren't they?

Else Garnett: Well, we can go over there and take the jobs off of them.

Alf Garnett: I don't want to go over there, do I?

Else Garnett: Wish you would.



........can't think why. :whistle:
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Ah! I get it. Against high levels of immigration = Alf Garnett (bigoted idiot) For high levels of immigration = Else Garnet (Sensible person)
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Nope can't see where I suggest that ?

I see no reason why we as a country cannot do our bit and helping out our fellow humans and continue our current level of immigration
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When you say " You see I'm in the opinion that no one owns the land we walk on and people should be able to build a life and a home where they wish" does that not mean that anyone who wants to walk upon the land and build a home where they wish, can?
 
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SocketRocket said:
When you say " You see I'm in the opinion that no one owns the land we walk on and people should be able to build a life and a home where they wish" does that not mean that anyone who wants to walk upon the land and build a home where they wish can?
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If they can build a home then yes I have no issue with them coming - ( as opposed to one given to them ) - I'm sure you would be able to understand the clear difference
 
SocketRocket said:
So you dont approve of giving homes to immigrants or asylum seekers from poor countries?
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I don't approve of people who look to come to the country purely on the basis of milking society without lifting a finger to help the country work - that also applies to British nationals.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I don't approve of people who look to come to the country purely on the basis of milking society without lifting a finger to help the country work - that also applies to British nationals.
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But Refugees and immigrants from poor countries are not able to build homes for themselves. Are they 'Milking Society' and are you suggesting we should offer no help to settle them? You did say "If they can build a home then yes I have no issue with them coming - ( as opposed to one given to them )" Did you not?
 
SocketRocket said:
But Refugees and immigrants from poor countries are not able to build homes for themselves. Are they 'Milking Society' and are you suggesting we should offer no help to settle them? You did say "If they can build a home then yes I have no issue with them coming - ( as opposed to one given to them )" Did you not?
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So because someone coming from a poor country that automatically means they have no skills or abilities to be able to gain employment and earn themselves funds to build a home for themselves ?!

I'm not suggesting anything - my posts are quite clear
 
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