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Oh No!! Not the 'I' Word again.

The Green Fairy said:
At least you acknowledged it, just depends which news you prefer. Best sometimes though for the whole story to come out.

Of course the child is worthy of sadness but there are many, many others who are not paraded in the 'news' to influence opinion.

There is a war and wars have factions, within those factions there are good people. Or do we determine that some are baddies and some are goodies? Are all refugees 'goodies' by dint of the fact that they are fleeing?

A lot of risk in getting it wrong.
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i don't really understand what you are trying to say.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
David Cameron - man of principle. Go on then Davie boy. About face. That's better. Now tell us that this is what you were going to do all along. Naw? Never mind. It's a start.
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Not a fan of the man but the idea that we take those from UN camps makes more sense as they will have been processed and their status confirmed. There are large centre that have been set up and no need for Syrians to be making dangerous journeys.
 
c1973 said:
This thread got me thinking of old tv comedy shows.........



Alf Garnett: Well, I mean, see if we go into Europe...

Else Garnett: I thought we was in Europe. I mean, I thought we always have been.

Alf Garnett: I know that, yer silly moo. I'm not talking about that aspect am I? I'm talking about the Common Market aspect of the going into Europe.

Alf Garnett: Old Enoch's against it, in't 'e, eh? He don't want no more bloody foreigners over here. We got enough bloody foreigners here as it is. Bloody country's swarming with Eities and Krauts and Froggies and Spagnollies and Brussel Sprouts. All coming over here and taking our jobs off of us, aren't they?

Else Garnett: Well, we can go over there and take the jobs off of them.

Alf Garnett: I don't want to go over there, do I?

Else Garnett: Wish you would.

........can't think why. :whistle:
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Thanks for reminding me of another piece of Johnny Speight genius!! Just spent a joyous hour or so watching YouTube episodes of it! Absolutely bleedin' marvelous! And timeless too - his argument with the 'Scouse Git about Liverpool seems to be rather familiar!! :whistle: And Spurs never play well on a Saturday, cos that's their Sabbath! :rolleyes: Shame West Ham isn't the force it was back then though! :mad:

It is indeed a shame that such programs just wouldn't 'get past the lawyers' these days - to borrow a phrase from Have I Got News for You!, unfortunately probably the closest thing we are likely to have!
 
Foxholer said:
Thanks for reminding me of another piece of Johnny Speight genius!! Just spent a joyous hour or so watching YouTube episodes of it! Absolutely bleedin' marvelous! And timeless too - his argument with the 'Scouse Git about Liverpool seems to be rather familiar!! :whistle: And Spurs never play well on a Saturday, cos that's their Sabbath! :rolleyes: Shame West Ham isn't the force it was back then though! :mad:

It is indeed a shame that such programs just wouldn't 'get past the lawyers' these days - to borrow a phrase from Have I Got News for You!, unfortunately probably the closest thing we are likely to have!
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Don't forget about Jesus being English. Or his run ins with 'Marigold'. Comedy genius. :)
 
And not forgetting the film, where he wouldn't shave off his Hitler 'tache.....because he had his first!! Magic.
 
londonlewis said:
I can't believe anyone takes you seriously. You are the man that doesn't provide any facts ever or refutes facts that are presented to you and yet you claim others are weak on ideas.

You are weak on arguments, ideas and opinions. Pretty much everything you say is so poorly formed and so generically thrown out there. It's like you come from a comedy scetch, some old man who keeps saying 'things were better in my day...'
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You really do like to make personal attacks rather than debate the issue. It's the armchair socialists way after all so I can see why.

Grow up please!
 
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bluewolf said:
Lol. Sorry SR, but the irony of attacking someone for insulting you by insulting and generalising is too precious to miss. :D
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If you want a good laugh, go back a few pages to where SR posts up various opinions as facts then tells LP to prove him wrong when LP said prove it. Wasn't so much a shoot yourself in the foot moment as a machine gun your whole leg off... still got me giggling
 
Hobbit said:
If you want a good laugh, go back a few pages to where SR posts up various opinions as facts then tells LP to prove him wrong when LP said prove it. Wasn't so much a shoot yourself in the foot moment as a machine gun your whole leg off... still got me giggling
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:D It's been a great thread so far hasn't it? I'm currently wondering whether to keep the thread going so as to stop someone posting the exact same thread in a few weeks time. Then I'll put up a poll asking if anyone has changed their opinion, the answer to which should make people realise the utter futility of Internet "discussions"...:D
 
SocketRocket said:
You really do like to make personal attacks rather than debate the issue. It's the armchair socialists way after all so I can see why.

Grow up please!
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Did you chuckle to yourself when you said that ?
 
Hobbit said:
If you want a good laugh, go back a few pages to where SR posts up various opinions as facts then tells LP to prove him wrong when LP said prove it. Wasn't so much a shoot yourself in the foot moment as a machine gun your whole leg off... still got me giggling
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I put up opinions as opinions and explained they were based on my personal experiences. I thought you better than that Brian.
 
bluewolf said:
Lol. Sorry SR, but the irony of attacking someone for insulting you by insulting and generalising is too precious to miss. :D
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Why do you continue to say this. I debate subjects and give my considered views, these views may differ from yours and I dont expect you to agree with them but I do not attack you personally or suggest your views are stupid. I do however constantly get personal slights from people that dont agree with me rather than keep to the point in contention.
 
SocketRocket said:
Why do you continue to say this. I debate subjects and give my considered views, these views may differ from yours and I dont expect you to agree with them but I do not attack you personally or suggest your views are stupid. I do however constantly get personal slights from people that dont agree with me rather than keep to the point in contention.
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I was referring to one particular post. Keep yer knickers on SR. And I'm not sure I continually say it. I continually think it, but it's others who usually say it. Your constant attack on anyone who is Left of you demeans your argument just as much as you claim their attacks demean theirs.
 
SocketRocket said:
Over 600,000 legal Immigrants into the UK during the last year.
Net immigration 330,000.
8.3 Million people living in the UK born abroad.

Are these numbers acceptable and can we supply suitable public services if this trend continues or increases.
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Just to get the thread back on topic.....

What is 'Net immigration'?
 
SocketRocket said:
I put up opinions as opinions and explained they were based on my personal experiences. I thought you better than that Brian.
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A quick look back, Post #199. LP asked you to substantiate "many" and "major." And then you both went on a "you prove it, no you prove it." And then you do a "I can't be bothered." Hilarious!!

As for thinking better of me?? Sorry for pointing out how good a job you were making of looking hilarious...
 
You know what! I am finished with this site and will never post on it again. I am sick to the back teeth of people that cannot accept contrary views and revert to the type of pathetic insults I receive here.

There are a few people who I have some respect for even if we don't always agree but there are to many of the type I just don't like.

For the members who have been interesting and informative I thank you, even if I have not always been in agreement.

Goodbye.
 
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