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wjemather

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You mean "Accurate" right?

You keep sticking your head in the sand. The purpose of handicapping is to provide a level and equitable playing field. WHS does not, it favours higher handicaps
As per my previous comments, particularly #299 and #347, even your own club's results do not appear to support this opinion.
 
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I think you miss the point being made. There is a reward for not trying. If you get to hole 8 and you realise you are not going to be in the prizes you might as well stop trying otherwise you will be at a disadvantage when your bad scores are reasonable.

I do not know of one single golfer who actively "stops trying" after having a few bad holes. Its a matter of personal pride that they try to eke something out of their rounds. The realization that they might not be in with a chance of winning a prize simply does not factor in to their thinking.
 

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As far as I'm aware there's no limit tk the number of NRs or cards with NRs..
When you NR a hole WHS applies a nett double to your scorecard.
If people are generally playing well but NRing a few holes via gimmees it will, surely, mess the handicapping system completely..
The gimmee may be for a par but a nett double goes on the card for handicapping.....
Done regularly, those cards may, eventually, impact a HI........
I just don't see that gimmees and WHS are compatible
 

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I think you miss the point being made. There is a reward for not trying. If you get to hole 8 and you realise you are not going to be in the prizes you might as well stop trying otherwise you will be at a disadvantage when your bad scores are reasonable.
You are talking about cheating; not just that, but a practice that was even more prevalent under the old system when it was ok to not return a score at all.
 
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You are talking about cheating; not just that, but a practice that was even more prevalent under the old system when it was ok to not return a score at all.
In essence you could regard it as cheating but many do it. I see the head go down and a don't give a damn attitude for the rest of the round, especially amongst higher handicappers, all the time. Is it cheating? Is it more prevalent? I'd say it's hard to call on the first count and it's no different on the second. The problem is that you get a much bigger differential with WHS, hence it now pays to play crap...
 

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They given an ‘as is’ option with the only change being that we have to submit 3 out of 4 rollup rounds for WHS counting thinking we’ll reject it out of hand…which many of our regulars have already done. I am actually OK with it and I suspect many agin it have not fully thought it through. Hence my questions.
Who gets to choose which 3 out of 4 rounds would be submitted and how would the other round be different?
 

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No I want a system that’s fair and gives everyone the same opportunity- the WHS doesn’t allow that
I think it is a fair system that gives everyone the same opportunity, if used correctly.

Unfortunately it is the users abusing the system that are spoiling it.
Yeah that’s fair - it’s a system that has very much opened itself up to abuse very easily

The worst thing for that was the App
So the system is fair now? Make your mind up.
 
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