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*there was a slight bonus for skill. That is no longer so, there is now a bonus for being crap*
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wjemather
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An unkind way of describing the entire purpose of handicapping.
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I think you miss the point being made. There is a reward for not trying. If you get to hole 8 and you realise you are not going to be in the prizes you might as well stop trying otherwise you will be at a disadvantage when your bad scores are reasonable.
Arthur Wedge
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As someone said in the past - it rewards mediocrity and at times encourages people to not look to improve
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You mean "Accurate" right?
You keep sticking your head in the sand. The purpose of handicapping is to provide a level and equitable playing field. WHS does not, it favours higher handicaps
nickjdavis
Head Pro
I do not know of one single golfer who actively "stops trying" after having a few bad holes. Its a matter of personal pride that they try to eke something out of their rounds. The realization that they might not be in with a chance of winning a prize simply does not factor in to their thinking.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
As far as I'm aware there's no limit tk the number of NRs or cards with NRs..
When you NR a hole WHS applies a nett double to your scorecard.
If people are generally playing well but NRing a few holes via gimmees it will, surely, mess the handicapping system completely..
The gimmee may be for a par but a nett double goes on the card for handicapping.....
Done regularly, those cards may, eventually, impact a HI........
I just don't see that gimmees and WHS are compatible
When you NR a hole WHS applies a nett double to your scorecard.
If people are generally playing well but NRing a few holes via gimmees it will, surely, mess the handicapping system completely..
The gimmee may be for a par but a nett double goes on the card for handicapping.....
Done regularly, those cards may, eventually, impact a HI........
I just don't see that gimmees and WHS are compatible
wjemather
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You are talking about cheating; not just that, but a practice that was even more prevalent under the old system when it was ok to not return a score at all.
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wjemather
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If you want a meritocracy, stick to scratch competitions.
On the contrary; improvers are at an advantage under any handicap system.
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In essence you could regard it as cheating but many do it. I see the head go down and a don't give a damn attitude for the rest of the round, especially amongst higher handicappers, all the time. Is it cheating? Is it more prevalent? I'd say it's hard to call on the first count and it's no different on the second. The problem is that you get a much bigger differential with WHS, hence it now pays to play crap...
D-S
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Who gets to choose which 3 out of 4 rounds would be submitted and how would the other round be different?
Arthur Wedge
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No I want a system that’s fair and gives everyone the same opportunity- the WHS doesn’t allow that
PaulMdj
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I think it is a fair system that gives everyone the same opportunity, if used correctly.
Unfortunately it is the users abusing the system that are spoiling it.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Yeah that’s fair - it’s a system that has very much opened itself up to abuse very easily
The worst thing for that was the App
PaulMdj
Well-known member
100%, they need to wise up to that and try to address it.
wjemather
Well-known member
No such system is possible, but WHS is the closest we have ever had.
Arthur Wedge
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It’s far from the closet we ever had - if anything it’s far worse than the previous system which appear to give every one a chance
PaulMdj
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Unfortunately I disagree, I agree about any system being infallible, but it is far more common now and the availability of the App.
wjemather
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So the system is fair now? Make your mind up.