Not good enough for my Scotty...?

[Slicer30]

Slicer read putting out of your mind - great book. I'm not saying I'm a bad putter just saying that there are some days when I strike the ball off centre and my Scotty has a really small sweet spot so it's noticeable. On a good day when I always hit the sweetspot I'm deadly with it. I practice most evenings for 30mins or so and am working on being a better putter BUT...

If this was about my iron play you would say play game improver irons rather than forged blades. Why is a putter any different?

If you have it, then you hopefully know I wasnt implying you were a bad putter.

I am all for Game improvement, as you can see most of my clubs give me a bit of help especially my very unattractive Mactec Driver lol.

Like others, I too have been playing about with the Odyssey No7 in our pro shop and was close to pulling the trigger a few times. The old ebay anser seems to be fighting for survival and I am happy with it at the moment.

I like the idea of keeping the Scotty and getting yourself a more forgiving putter in the meantime. That way if the scotty is to get back into the bag it will need to out perform the more practical club.

 

[Tiger]

Tiger, what Scotty do you have?

I had a newport 2.5 and averaged 40 putts per round, wobbly on the short putts and no feel whatsoever for lag putts (4 feet short or past was common)

Sold it to a much better home and got myself another scotty but one that fits my eye better and my stroke, only tried it once so far but lags are a joy, 4 footers seem easier and even drained a 40 footer........

as Ping say, dont change your stroke, change your putter!

are you sbst or slight arc or strong arc, it REALLY makes a difference which putter suits

SBST though according to Mr Cameron everyone has an arc. I've got a 2.7 which is nearly face balanced but not that forgiving.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I'd get a lesson before I did anything else (E I guess). Has to be cheaper than forking out on a decent new putter. If you did look at another what would you go for. If you are wobbly then something like a spider or the new Ping Nome may help. Otherwise are you a mallet or blade guy or something in between

 

[Tiger]

B and c I'm affaid
don't agree with what you say about the small sweet spot I've the same putter and mine is fine.

Lets face it, its not the putter its you.

Errrrr that's what I'm saying. My stroke is clearly not that good, the club is great but perhaps having something more forgiving whilst I'm working on my stroke would be a good idea. It's like saying I should play MP53s. You play off 9 I'm willing to hazard a guess you're a better player than me!!!!

 

[JustOne]

It's a 4" swing FFS ..... grow a pair

 

[kid2]

Errrrr that's what I'm saying. My stroke is clearly not that good, the club is great but perhaps having something more forgiving whilst I'm working on my stroke would be a good idea. It's like saying I should play MP53s. You play off 9 I'm willing to hazard a guess you're a better player than me!!!!

Whats wrong with your stroke Tiger......You missing left or right on short putts.

 

[richart]

Did you try the putter before buying Tiger ? If so I assume the sweet spot shrunk after you handed over your hard earned. I tried a Scotty when I bought my Odyssey putter, and was fully expecting to love it, especially bearing in mind the price. Fortunately couldn't get on with it all, and ended up with the Odyssey White Ice Mini T.

Mate of mine who has always used a blade putter, left his putter at home and had to borrow mine. He loved the balance and feel so much he bought one as soon as he got home.

 

[JustOne]

Expectation is probably too high.... even the pros don't hole as many putts as you think.....

someone go find the stats for 6ft and 8 ft putts..........

 

[kid2]

SBST though according to Mr Cameron everyone has an arc. I've got a 2.7 which is nearly face balanced but not that forgiving.

Tiger balance the putter shaft on your fingers and see where the toe points......Up at the sky its face balanced....Slightly down is a 1/4 toe hang and it varies after that for different putters in that the more weight on the toe the more they point to the floor which would have a full toe hang......

Now there is no such thing as a SBST stroke...Everyone has an arc and it is either slight or strong....Depending on the arc....

Slight = 1/4 toe hang.....
Strong = full toe hang....

The mallets would nearly all tend to be face balanced depending on where the shaft enters the head....
From looking at you Scotty it looks like a double bend shaft which would give the impression that its face balanced but looking at the head i would say that it has a slight toe hang....
If thats the case then i would think that its fine for you...Just practice more with it.
Check along your skirting board and just swing your putter and see what way the head tracks through the stroke...This will tell you how slight or strong of an arc your stroke has.

 

[Region3]

I think you should get a putting lesson if you haven't already had one.

Aside from that, some things from my experience that might help...
I had a slight wobble on takeaway when I had a bladed putter, and found that a face-balanced mallet made it much better.
I still get it sometimes, but also find that supporting the weight of the putter before I take it away helps as I think suddenly bearing the weight of it when you take it away contributes to the wobble.
Leaving a small gap between putter and ball and focussing on a piece of grass inbetween the 2 helps me to hit the sweet spot more often, as it stops me lifting my head in anticipation of the thing I'm focussing on (the ball) moving away.

This last one I've not tried, but read about. When you practice, put a couple of elastic bands around the putter face so that anything not on the sweet spot will hit one of them.

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Oh sod it... Option B

 

[Tiger]

I think you should get a putting lesson if you haven't already had one.


This last one I've not tried, but read about. When you practice, put a couple of elastic bands around the putter face so that anything not on the sweet spot will hit one of them.

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Oh sod it... Option B

Putting lesson lined up and set to happen before any purchase. Missing long putts short through not making a pure strike is the main issue. This putter is the first club I ever bought so I didn't really know what I was looking for (apart from face balance which my pro told me about)...

BUT elastic bands tip is inspired

 

[Tiger]

Interestingly the 2.7 model was discontinued shortly after launch...

 

[bobmac]

Tiger, consider this.......
When you hit a 6 iron, you want to hit the sweet spot to make sure the ball flys the required distance.
When you putt, do you HAVE to hit the sweet spot?
Address the ball 1-2 cm away from the sweet spot towards the toe and strike the ball with that part of the putter.
As the ball will miss the sweetspot, i wont come off the face at it's maximum speed, therefor you can be more aggresive with the stoke without the ball flying passed the hole.
This is also a good tip for those fast downhillers.
If all else fails, if you cant pull the putter back and through to the same place, you must be moving your body.
Try the chair drill.

 

[patricks148]

Errrrr that's what I'm saying. My stroke is clearly not that good, the club is great but perhaps having something more forgiving whilst I'm working on my stroke would be a good idea. It's like saying I should play MP53s. You play off 9 I'm willing to hazard a guess you're a better player than me!!!!

no need to guess, i'm def a better player than you.
What i'm saying is there is nother wrong with the SC 2.7 it's what i use on slower greens in spring and winter.
Its a face bal putter so its a straight back and though stroke you need unlike most other SC which would be in to in.

get two bits of wood 2 foot long and 2 inch thick, put the putter width apart and spend a hour putting like that. you will soon get the hang of it and hit the sweet spot.

 

[USER1999]

How do you putt with a chair and a drill?

I'd rather use a putter.

Answer to the op question: buy another scotty.

 

[Imurg]

Tiger, consider this.......
When you hit a 6 iron, you want to hit the sweet spot to make sure the ball flys the required distance.
When you putt, do you HAVE to hit the sweet spot?
Address the ball 1-2 cm away from the sweet spot towards the toe and strike the ball with that part of the putter.
As the ball will miss the sweetspot, i wont come off the face at it's maximum speed, therefor you can be more aggresive with the stoke without the ball flying passed the hole.
This is also a good tip for those fast downhillers.

I get what you're saying Bob, but what happens if you then hit the sweetspot - you do a Crawford and putt off the green...The putter head can also twist if you don't hit the middle, especially with a blade-like design - the ball's then going right.
To my mind, you need to be a fairly decent putter to be able to hit the ball with a specific part of the face to order - and if you can hit consistently with the toe then you can hit consistently with the middle.

 

[bobmac]

To my mind, you need to be a fairly decent putter to be able to hit the ball with a specific part of the face to order - and if you can hit consistently with the toe then you can hit consistently with the middle.

Is the area around the sweet spot not bigger than the sweet SPOT itself ?

 

[One Planer]

When I was fitted for my Scotty I tried a 2012 Hollywood Cameron.

I had a similar issue with a slight wobble in the take away so the fitter suggested the Del Mar (2012). He suggested the Del Mar would be a better fit as it would offer a little more stability in the initial part of the take away without opting for a full mallett aka Kombi-S.

Since getting fit, I've dropped from 35-36 PPR to 31-32 PPR.

To answer your question. I would say get a lesson to make sure nothing is fundimentally wrong, then take it from there.

If you want to get a new shiney..... Get fitted :thup:

 

[Tiger]

This discussion has been really helpful so thanks to everyone for their contributions. I've put the elastic bands on as Gary sggested and noted that the impact marks on the club face definitely drift off centre toward the toe which confirms my thoughts about being off centre.

The trouble I have Bob is that our greens are not the fastest and the further you swing back to make up for it the greater the margin for error, but I appreciate what you are saying. I'm going to to keep on practicising with the bands in place ahead of my lesson. Thanks again

 

[G1BB0]

Tiger I totally can relate to your problem as its similar to mine, I can hole a 20 footer 1 minute then be 2ft short and wide on the next. I intend on going the high MOI route. I know my sroke isnt perfect but also my putter isnt suited to my putting style.

I may even purchase another 2 ball belly putter as that thing was the dogs danglies, I just felt whispers every time I pulled it out of the bag

Kepp us updated as to how the lesson/putter search goes