bigslice
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ok I play mizzy wedges that I believe I have until 2015 or 25 to stop playing with. but what about clubs that say in their advertising non conforming to R n A. are these defo not allowed in comps right now?
non conforming golf club
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pbrown7582
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I would imagine so but it will obviously depend on each individual club, i have seen a few jumbo drivers advertised as non conforming and sold for bounce games only.
the major manufacturers dont tend to sell non confroming gear, anything specific youve seen?
the major manufacturers dont tend to sell non confroming gear, anything specific youve seen?
bigslice
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Dunlop rebel wedge for sale at sports direct (im not buying it lol)
duncan mackie
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yes, you would be in breach of the rules to carry this (strokes penalty depending on how many holes etc) or use it at all (DQ)
blackpuddinmonster
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Any dunlop product that has rebel on it is nonconforming including the golf balls.
mattdeeks
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Apparently you can get some wicked back spin with those rebel wedges 
Hendo007
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I've amended that one for you ;-)
Foxholer
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Dunlop appear to be making some sort of push into quality gear. Some recent Drivers and irons have been pretty good. Molinari is another wearing their clothing, so efforts in that direction too.
I can't understand why they would release the 'Rebel' stuff and taint the brand!
I can't understand why they would release the 'Rebel' stuff and taint the brand!
blackpuddinmonster
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To be fair to Dunlop its not just them. If you look on the list all the major brands have plenty of form so to speak.
I think the rebel stuff is aimed at the recreational market. A guy in the club has the driver(512 cc) and a couple of them wedges, personally i can't tell much difference(my lack of ability) but he swears by them. He doesn't play in comps, only plays when the suns out and rarely breaks 100. He pays his greenfees, spends plenty over the bar and is a good laff to boot, so i guess no harm done.
duncan mackie
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you surprise me - can you point me to another major brand product manufactured to be non-conforming (and the Lynx Boom Boom doesn't count!) ?
Imurg
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At least manufactured in the last few years - they all made non-conforming drivers before the COR rule change....
blackpuddinmonster
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Read me post guys, it says "have form".
Reguarding Dunlop they're selling these clubs of at less than 20 brick, can you even make a club for that price? And be fair to them they do stamp each club as being "illegal". No room for confusion i'd o'thowt. :thup:
Reguarding Dunlop they're selling these clubs of at less than 20 brick, can you even make a club for that price? And be fair to them they do stamp each club as being "illegal". No room for confusion i'd o'thowt. :thup:
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
OK but ALL manufacturers have made clubs that have now been deemed non conforming - that's hardly "form"....
They were making what was legal at the time - Dunlop are making non-conforming clubs now.
Can't see the point....
duncan mackie
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I did read your post - that's why I responded!
You posted "To be fair to Dunlop its not just them. If you look on the list all the major brands have plenty of form so to speak." from which I took the obvious inference that other major manufacturers have acted in the same way as Dunlop.
I showed surprise and you now seem to be agreeing that Dunlop alone, of the major manufacturers, is acting in this manner - despite your previous post.
Plenty of room for confusion.
blackpuddinmonster
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Right here's the point
Foxholer posted that he thougth the rebel brand somehow "tainted" dunlops name. I posted in return that perhaps they were catering for a different market, weren't trying to conceal the fact, were selling the stuff at rediculously low prices, and so couldn't see were the taint to there reputation was coming from. I also posted that other manufacturers had "form", to me form is past actions, completly different to "current form".
As usual on here people choose to read the bits they want and then jump all over the poster, without taking the whole post into context. As i said read the post.:ears:
If you disagree with me and think that the rebel brand is bad for dunlop fine. Say so and lets discuss it. To me dunlop develop different products for different markets and like i said i can't see the problem.
Of course if your last sentance is referring to dunlop making the rebel brand, then i guess i've just commited the same faux pas i've just accused you of. Mmm....
Imurg
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Right here's the point
Foxholer posted that he thougth the rebel brand somehow "tainted" dunlops name. I posted in return that perhaps they were catering for a different market, weren't trying to conceal the fact, were selling the stuff at rediculously low prices, and so couldn't see were the taint to there reputation was coming from. I also posted that other manufacturers had "form", to me form is past actions, completly different to "current form".
As usual on here people choose to read the bits they want and then jump all over the poster, without taking the whole post into context. As i said read the post.:ears:
If you disagree with me and think that the rebel brand is bad for dunlop fine. Say so and lets discuss it. To me dunlop develop different products for different markets and like i said i can't see the problem.
Of course if your last sentance is referring to dunlop making the rebel brand, then i guess i've just commited the same faux pas i've just accused you of. Mmm....
Form, in your context, is the same as saying Ford, Austin, Morris, Triumph etc etc all made cars with engines running 4-star instead of unleaded...That's not "form" in the context of Golf club manufacture. Every manufacturer of anything has made product that has sooner or later been declared non-conforming/illegal or whatever term you want to use. Dunlop are the only ones showing "form" by still producing non-conforming kit.
Dunlop used to be a fine brand - they lost their way BIG TIME and are showing small signs of regaining a little respect in the Industry. To then produce a non-conforming range of clubs is insane in my opinion, insane and completely unnecessary.
Why got to the bother of producing a range that hardly anyone will buy? Dunlop clubs and balls are about as cheap as you can get - how much cheaper do they need to be? The Rebel wedge is £7 online from Sports Direct - their TP 12 wedge is £6.....?????
Why not spend a bit more on producing a better wedge to sell for £9 than selling 2 or 3 for a little less - it makes no sense and they're doing themselves a great injustice.
As far as I know, and I'm more than willing to be corrected, Dunlop are the only manufacturer producing non-conforming product.
Can there be a market for it? Surely not if it costs more than conforming product..
G
guest100718
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Im not sure ping have ever made any non conforming clubs, at least not a driver.
Imurg
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Most irons made prior to 2010 don't conform to the nes groove rule - ok they're still legal to use(for us) but are technically non-conforming - G2, G5, G10 etc etc
G
guest100718
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Yeah I thought maybe some grooves would probably be non conforming but I think their drivers are fine. Unlike some of the callaways and Cobras for example.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
You're right on the Ping Drivers - without looking I'd guess virtually every other manufacturer is on the N/C list at least once..
But then they weren't illegal when they made them - just shows Ping could keep up without needing the extra COR I suppose..
