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Simfastatin (spelling)But you're still on statins.
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williamalex1
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I was prescribed Lipitor 10mg Atorvastatin and Simvastatin and both nearly crippled me.
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Ethan
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Well, it isn't a matter of embarrassment, it is a matter of risk-benefit.
I don't know Dr Pell, but he is a Dr (physician) rather than an Mr (surgeon). He will have made a judgement based on your risk score, which takes into account gender, cholesterol, age, previous medical history and whether or not you have diabetes, high blood pressure or other risk factors. There are some people taking statins who could come off without any appreciable increase in risk, and others in whom it would be very unwise. And if you were having side effects, often muscle pain or increases in liver enzymes, those would be factored in too.
Ethan
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At the same time?
Ethan
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Please yourself. Chiropractic is based on supposed relationships between joints and organs in the body and has been comprehensively proven to be nonsense. There are often reasons why someone should come off a statin. Statins are known to cause myalgia (muscle pain) in some people, as a side effect of their primary mode of action. They are not known to cause joint pains and if you had joint pains on them, you should ask your qualified doctor to report that.
There are lots of reasons doctors take people off meds - no longer needed, side effects, better med comes along, patient is a moaner and it is just not worth the earache ....
By the way, I am fully qualified, but I will not be providing a list of my qualifications because the day I need to justify my qualifications to you is the day I bite off my arm and beat myself to death with the bloody stump.
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williamalex1
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No, first Simvastain for about 3 months then changed to Atorvastatin.
Old Skier
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Thank you for your informed response, just to further increase your knowledge to assist with your future comments the information leaflet in the statin box did say muscle and joint pain as a possible side effect. Further more many NHS practitioners see the benefits of adding chrioprators to the list of treatments available and don't see them as some kind of voodoo. I appreciate that as your not practicing it is easy to get a bit behind.
Foxholer
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While I have only had good experiences, several times over the years, with Chiropractors, but that has purely been restricted to manipulation for lower back pain. I certainly agree that they should stay away from areas that a Doctor is the appropriate reference!
Ethan
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If they do physio, that is fine. There are reported cases of people suffering stroke after their intervertebral artery was torn. The idea behind chiropractic is that the alignment of certain joints in the spine affects other organs. That is demonstrably nonsense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic
There is a chiropractor in the town I live advertising treatment for infertility. If he treats female infertility, the only effective method will be the laying on of an organ other than his hands.
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SocketRocket
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You listed them some time ago on this Forum. I will understand if you decide to forego the arm chewing though.
Foxholer
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While that may have been the original hypothesis, I believe very few, if any, current chiropractors believe this - and their association states, rightly imo, that it should be treated as 'historical concept, not current theoretical model'. Remember that not long ago, 'Doctors' were advocating EST and Lithium and to use Bleeding as a universal cure! Health has made huge advances in the last hundred years or so! I believe Leeches actually even have a valuable use in current/recent Medicine!!
It is, of course, important to check that any Professional (or Tradesman) is suitable. Membership of the appropriate professional body is probably the best starting point. Unlike Doctoring, lack of membership of a particular body does not prevent shysters from practicing, but then there have also been cases where Doctors have breached their duty of care too!
Btw. Shouldn't you be 'out'-ing that shyster?
Kellfire
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Shock therapy is still used. As is Lithium. As is some bleeding like leaches...
Ethan
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Like I said, if they do physio, fine.
I have administered ECT and it is still administered today, albeit less often. It is a much maligned treatment and highly effective for the right patient, as with most treatments. Lithium is also used for bipolar and other psychiatric disorders, and bleeding, well that is only used for haemochromatosis, an iron overload disorder.
In this day and age, people are allowed to waste their money with shysters. They can be warned, though.
Tashyboy
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When missis T had her MIR scan week last Friday which showed the extent of her knackered back. The registrar ran through everything that was wrong with it and finished with the line " for gods sake do not see a chiropractor he will cause you permanent damage".
She does not need to be told anymore.
Foxholer
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That's pretty much all those that I have used had done - though they called it 'manipulation'. I don't care what it's called as long as it works! The 'physio' I was due to receive through NHS was an abject failure, simply demonstrating some of the communication issues that it had (was forced to have) at the time - and appears to still have!
How did you determine the patient is 'the right patient' for EST (ECT?) or, more importantly. whether EST (ECT) is 'right' for the patient?
Ethan
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Electro Convulsive Therapy (ECT). There is quite a bit of evidence that shows that ECT is a suitable treatment for people in a catatonic state or with treatment-resistant depression or schizophrenia (or both). These days it is only used after meds have failed, and is carefully reviewed before being allowed. In the past when more widely used, some patients really wanted it because it worked fast for them and there were no side effects apart from during the immediate period afterwards.
Foxholer
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Thanks. Seems 'properly' monitored these days then. I knew someone who was one of the last to be 'treated' by it in the 'old' way - an wasn't fan! Treatment was actually performed at the 'now posh gated estate' near Wentworth where David Howell used to live.
Oddly, we were discussing 'Awakenings' (the catatonic reference) at work!
Tashyboy
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Missis T Saw the GP last Monday who has referred her for an MRI scan, waited until today to ring hospital and to see when her appointment is. The appointments secretary has not recieved owt, rang GP who said it was sent last Monday. Rang hospital back who they said it is sat with "gateway". ? Drs, consultants or whoever will decide if it is important enough for her to have a scan soon. 10 pigging days tomorrow and still no nearer.
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My missus has got her MRI next Sunday at 8:30am, took 3 weeks for the appt to come through and surprised it was so quick.
