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Nope but saw what conditions a good number of people had to live in and also saw the riches that were blundered by Hussain and his regime - blundered by murdering innocent people.
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Nope but saw what conditions a good number of people had to live in and also saw the riches that were blundered by Hussain and his regime - blundered by murdering innocent people.
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So do nothing, let the problems continue and blame them. much better answer.
Old Skier
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A lot of negatives there which are hard to argue against however the Middle East has been a very unstable area for many years with and without our involvement and go much deeper than what we have and haven't done in the area.
I wonder what your take on us sticking our noses in Kuwait is/was and should we have kept rolling into Iraq and our continued involvement in assisting Jordon in the defense of their country.
So how do you fund it? Simple question
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Go after the multi-nationals companies who are not paying taxes, 34 Billion owed in unpaid taxes according to the NAO, start there.
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The Middle East has of course been unstable for a while. a lot of it is Shia-Sunni, with a few regional flavours.
Any western fix to the area's problems is likely to be doomed and solidify opposition. The fix needs to come from within the region.
As for Kuwait, at the time, Iraq had good relations with the US but was in an economic debate on oil production and price with Kuwait. Saddam communicated with the US Ambassador to Iraq and was told that the US had no opinion on the escalating economic dispute with Kuwait. He may have taken that a tacit signal that the US would be neutral on a further escalation. The war didn't start for over 5 months after the invasion. There was a lot more going on there than we know about.
And how long do you think that will take? The problem is clearly here and now and that's the issue, too many people and not enough funding or resources.
English children cannot get on the property ladder due to sky high prices for a simple house.
The demand is much greater now than it ever was because of the influx in immigration.
Why should Johnny foreigner take precedence over a true born and bred English person (or Irish, Scottish or Welsh)?
This country is screwed right now and will only get worse.
Shame on all those bleeding do-gooders in denial.
The demand is much greater now than it ever was because of the influx in immigration.
Why should Johnny foreigner take precedence over a true born and bred English person (or Irish, Scottish or Welsh)?
This country is screwed right now and will only get worse.
Shame on all those bleeding do-gooders in denial.
And please spare me the racist shouts because I already know I am one (not the violent type though).
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When did anyone suggest a "foreigner" takes precedence ?
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So we agree we have a problem with immigration as you rightly say it's clearly here and now and your answer is? Do nothing, moan and hope it goes away if it's own accord?
That's not my answer and in truth I don't have one. I just don't see how building all these extra houses etc is going to solve the problem. To be honest, there are enough vacant properties, including offices that could be used and converted rather than building from scratch but again who foots the bill. It's a problem that won't away and while we need to be doing something, whatever we do will come at a cost and it's one I can't see being footed by anyone other than the taxpayer
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I've at least tried an answer, currently we are in cack state and cuts coming everywhere, people like to blame everything on immigrants and benefit cheats, but if the Government made a stand against these business's maybe some of the cuts wouldn't be needed or the extra money could be used to control our borders or to help our kids.
Benefit fraud accounts for 0.7% of the overall benefits bill, tax fraud is 7% of the tax bill, you never hear of Politicians complaining about that or TV companies making programmes about the people doing it.
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So they do what my Brother did in the 60's buy a flat first and as has my daughter at 24 buy a flat and then rent out a room.
As an aside chatting after golf yesterday to guy who's daughter is getting married and bemoaning the daft amount of money being spent on stag/hen do's and then complaining they've no money to put down a deposit on a house
Old Skier
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Tim BL has a lot to answer too.
In my home town of Rickmansworth, many former industrial and commercial premises, a Police and Fire Station, and a large former hotel have all been converted into flats and apartments. The draw is a Metropolitan/Chiltern Line station with a fast(?) service into London. Therefore there are less employment opportunities in the area and more traffic on the road caused by those who travel to work or school by road from these new dwellings. The housing shortage has been partly solved, but only at the expense of the quality of life of the local residents. You cannot cram 3 million extra people into a small area like Greater London without consequences. It is getting particularly difficult to book a doctors' appointment before you either die or get better!
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In my home town of Rickmansworth, many former industrial and commercial premises, a Police and Fire Station, and a large former hotel have all been converted into flats and apartments. The draw is a Metropolitan/Chiltern Line station with a fast(?) service into London. Therefore there are less employment opportunities in the area and more traffic on the road caused by those who travel to work or school by road from these new dwellings. The housing shortage has been partly solved, but only at the expense of the quality of life of the local residents. You cannot cram 3 million extra people into a small area like Greater London without consequences. It is getting particularly difficult to book a doctors' appointment before you either die or get better!
There will be issues. I think that whichever side of the argument you are on, you'll see that and while Rickmansworth as your example has clearly sort to resolve issues by utilising existing buildings, of course that has a knock on effect with other services. As I've said before, who funds the extra surgeries, builds the new schools, and while these would create jobs during construction and beyond there has to be initial capital to do so and I don't see where that comes from
Tashyboy
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Anyway back on track WITH THE NHS RANT.👍
Went to to see our quack today who has put Missis T on the club til 6th April. It may be a practice for when we are both retired. IE, If we don't kill one another. If I don't post on here for 2 week call the police.
Anyway Missis T asked why the hospital could not refer me and asked the GP to do it. He said "money". If the hospital refers it gets no money. If the GP does, then he has to pay. It is BS that once more did nothing for my tyrets.
I took Missis T's " club note" into the hospital and told her boss of our probs they told me to contact PALS and fill them in with all the details.
Went to to see our quack today who has put Missis T on the club til 6th April. It may be a practice for when we are both retired. IE, If we don't kill one another. If I don't post on here for 2 week call the police.
Anyway Missis T asked why the hospital could not refer me and asked the GP to do it. He said "money". If the hospital refers it gets no money. If the GP does, then he has to pay. It is BS that once more did nothing for my tyrets.
I took Missis T's " club note" into the hospital and told her boss of our probs they told me to contact PALS and fill them in with all the details.
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Well, was back to hospital today for another appt with the missus, seen both sides of the NHS but firmly believe there is more to be thankful for than not.
Tashyboy
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Yup 👍but for me, the system and some poor nursing was over shone by some quality nursing and Drs.
its a bit like me shooting 84 the other week, 80 shots was sky sports viewing but the other 4 stuck in my throat and are the ones I cannot get outta my head.
