NHS rant alert

[Deleted member 16999]

Yup 👍but for me, the system and some poor nursing was over shone by some quality nursing and Drs.

its a bit like me shooting 84 the other week, 80 shots was sky sports viewing but the other 4 stuck in my throat and are the ones I cannot get outta my head.

Sadly that's what we do, my son was born at 28 weeks weighing 1lb 10oz and we owe everything to the Doctors and Nurses that looked after him at St Thomas's in London he's 22 now and a great young man.
On the other side we took Sunderland Royal to the GMC after one of their Doctors nearly killed the father-in-law, very little trust in that place.

 

[Foxholer]

...Anyway Missis T asked why the hospital could not refer me and asked the GP to do it. He said "money". If the hospital refers it gets no money. If the GP does, then he has to pay. It is BS that once more did nothing for my tyrets.

Seems to me that this is the petty accounting issues that Ethan has oft referred to! The effect is to delay treatment, therefore the overall cost will almost certainly increase - unless, of course, the patient dies (which I have certainly heard of!)!!

Someone needs to shake this particular practice sufficiently that it stops - as it not only costs more, but endangers patients health! There should be sufficient simple ways around it to stop this obscene waste!

 

[SocketRocket]

I've at least tried an answer, currently we are in cack state and cuts coming everywhere, people like to blame everything on immigrants and benefit cheats, but if the Government made a stand against these business's maybe some of the cuts wouldn't be needed or the extra money could be used to control our borders or to help our kids.
Benefit fraud accounts for 0.7% of the overall benefits bill, tax fraud is 7% of the tax bill, you never hear of Politicians complaining about that or TV companies making programmes about the people doing it.

As the welfare bill is around 217 Billion per annum then .7% is rather a lot of money. There is also a difference between tax fraud and tax avoidance.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

As the welfare bill is around 217 Billion per annum then .7% is rather a lot of money. There is also a difference between tax fraud and tax avoidance.

Absolutely go after the benefit fraudsters, but go after the tax dodgers as well, win win to get both, just what woukd be more beneficial to the Country?

 

[Ethan]

Anyway back on track WITH THE NHS RANT.👍

Went to to see our quack today who has put Missis T on the club til 6th April. It may be a practice for when we are both retired. IE, If we don't kill one another. If I don't post on here for 2 week call the police.
Anyway Missis T asked why the hospital could not refer me and asked the GP to do it. He said "money". If the hospital refers it gets no money. If the GP does, then he has to pay. It is BS that once more did nothing for my tyrets.
I took Missis T's " club note" into the hospital and told her boss of our probs they told me to contact PALS and fill them in with all the details.

This is the new order. Back in the day, if you went to a dermatology out-patients, say, and complained of something that sounded neurological or renal, the doctor could ring round to the neuro or renal clinic and ask for you to be seen during that session. No more. Now the doctor will have to write to the GP, and ask for a new referral, which will be delayed by 6 weeks or more compared to the old version. That wastes specialist time, GP time and most importantly, your time. But the idea is to inflate activity figures. In the old model, that was 1 patient episode. Now it is 2. That means, in the future, 2 sets of bills and charges levied by the company delivering NHS services.

 

[SocketRocket]

This is the new order. Back in the day, if you went to a dermatology out-patients, say, and complained of something that sounded neurological or renal, the doctor could ring round to the neuro or renal clinic and ask for you to be seen during that session. No more. Now the doctor will have to write to the GP, and ask for a new referral, which will be delayed by 6 weeks or more compared to the old version. That wastes specialist time, GP time and most importantly, your time. But the idea is to inflate activity figures. In the old model, that was 1 patient episode. Now it is 2. That means, in the future, 2 sets of bills and charges levied by the company delivering NHS services.

I think that may have been in the day when the Neuro or Renal Clinics had some spare capacity. I suspect those days have long gone.

 

[Ethan]

I think that may have been in the day when the Neuro or Renal Clinics had some spare capacity. I suspect those days have long gone.

Not necessarily. The clinic may not have appointments, but the docs will respond to a doc to doc request. The patients are usually added as 'extras'. The rules were not changed because of pressure on clinics, but due to maximising billing and activity levels.

 

[Hobbit]

have you seen what the drug bill is for 2015??? Any drug rep, Ethan, that can support that without blanching is a hypocrite! Supporter of the NHS my ar5e!

 

[Big Whacker]

I've never seen a smackhead wait for their methadone yet often see long waits for others for their medicine.

I wonder how much the horrible crack rats cost the NHS?

Why drip feed them their addiction when cold turkey is an option?

Cancer sufferers get denied treatment yet these scum of the earth don't.

 

[Old Skier]

have you seen what the drug bill is for 2015??? Any drug rep, Ethan, that can support that without blanching is a hypocrite! Supporter of the NHS my ar5e!

Good rant, but he's one of the good guys

 

[Ethan]

have you seen what the drug bill is for 2015??? Any drug rep, Ethan, that can support that without blanching is a hypocrite! Supporter of the NHS my ar5e!

I am sorry. I am not a drug rep. Could you restate your rant as an answerable question, please?

 

[williamalex1]

First class service for me on Monday from the NHS. Doctors appointment 8.30 , after examination said an ex-ray was required.

I was given the choice of 3 hospitals , I choose the Monklands hospital in Coatbridge the nearest, expecting a long wait , but hey ho seen straight away and back home before 10.30.
Results will be available from my surgery in 7 to 10 days.

Sadly I may have Rheumatoid arthritis in my hands , so fingers crossed, ouch !.

 

[Tashyboy]

Listening to Missis T earlier today talking to my daughter. Missis T has had a lot of time on her hands last few days when she was not asleep or wriggling about in pain. Anyway she said to daughter she is saying something to her manager when she's gets back. She said some of the things she saw and heard " whilst on the other side" was scary. I asked her about it when daughter had gone and she says she has a duty to say something.

 

[Old Skier]

First class service for me on Monday from the NHS. Doctors appointment 8.30 , after examination said an ex-ray was required.

I was given the choice of 3 hospitals , I choose the Monklands hospital in Coatbridge the nearest, expecting a long wait , but hey ho seen straight away and back home before 10.30.
Results will be available from my surgery in 7 to 10 days.

Sadly I may have Rheumatoid arthritis in my hands , so fingers crossed, ouch !.

I had an initial diagnosis of that and then my chiropractor asked if I take statins which I did. Once off them everything back to normal. Thank heavens for chiropractors.

 

[williamalex1]

I had an initial diagnosis of that and then my chiropractor asked if I take statins which I did. Once off them everything back to normal. Thank heavens for chiropractors.

I've been prescribed 2 different types of statins both for a few months but they didn't agree with me.
I think there maybe an issue/problem/ conflict of interest in prescribing mass medication .

 

[Ethan]

I had an initial diagnosis of that and then my chiropractor asked if I take statins which I did. Once off them everything back to normal. Thank heavens for chiropractors.

Statins may stop you having a heart attack or stroke though.

Chiropractic is an unscientific voodoo discipline. Chiropractors have no training in cholesterol or cardiac management and have no business interfering with prescribing decisions.

 

[williamalex1]

Statins may stop you having a heart attack or stroke though.

Chiropractic is an unscientific voodoo discipline. Chiropractors have no training in cholesterol or cardiac management and have no business interfering with prescribing decisions.

My heart consultants exact words to me were " I wouldn't be embarrassed to take you off statins, quote from Mr Pell cardiac unit Monklands hospital.

 

[Old Skier]

Statins may stop you having a heart attack or stroke though.

Chiropractic is an unscientific voodoo discipline. Chiropractors have no training in cholesterol or cardiac management and have no business interfering with prescribing decisions.

I prefer the information received from my qualified doctor (rather than the site exSpurt) who agreed with the witch doctor and all symtoms have now gone. I am now on a different kind of statin.

This happened several years ago and I obviously spoke to a (my) qualified Doctor before taking any action.

 

[Jacko_G]

I've never seen a smackhead wait for their methadone yet often see long waits for others for their medicine.

I wonder how much the horrible crack rats cost the NHS?

Why drip feed them their addiction when cold turkey is an option?

Cancer sufferers get denied treatment yet these scum of the earth don't.

Witnessed this last week. Handed in a prescription and was told it would be 20 minutes as they were busy. At my back in walks junkie boy. Chemist immediately drops what she is doing and ushers him into the "consultant room" to save him the embarrassment of taking his "medicine" in front of others who are waiting the 20 minutes to get their prescriptions!

Now I obviously don't know this lads background or what led him into the life of drugs nor am I going to judge him but I do question why he gets preferential treatment.

 

[Golfmmad]

I prefer the information received from my qualified doctor (rather than the site exSpurt) who agreed with the witch doctor and all symtoms have now gone. I am now on a different kind of statin.

This happened several years ago and I obviously spoke to a (my) qualified Doctor before taking any action.

But you're still on statins.