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Next England manager?

It is interesting to read how much the opinions on Hodgson have changed - for the last number of years a certain few have said exactly the sort of poor manager he is - the track record of failure at a higher level was clear to see as well as the blagging and the utter tripe the man came out with - it was normally rebuffed with the old "unbeaten in qualfiying " "building for the future".

He is clueless beyond setting up a team not to lose - the England players aren't all that bad - some talented youngsters about who were ignored despite the obvious players clearly not up to it. The new manager does have a lot of good players

Butland
Clyne
Stone
Chambers
Rose
Chilwell
Ward Prowse
Redmond
Henderson
Loftus Cheek
Grealish
Barkley
Drinkwater
Dier
Alli
Kane
Lallana
Sturridge
Sterling

The problem is there isn't one stand out

If players like Barkley and Stones do move to City working under Pep could massively improve them or even staying and working with Koeman - both of them have the potential to be stars - even Sterling once he repairs his shattered self belief

England need to make the right choice - he needs to be first and foremost a coach , a modern tactician- people like Hoddle , Redknapp etc shouldn't be touch.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It is interesting to read how much the opinions on Hodgson have changed - for the last number of years a certain few have said exactly the sort of poor manager he is - .
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And you was right all along,well done Phill:thup:

It's a shame we didn't get your mate Brenda on board,you know 'that bright young exciting manager'
:rofl:
 
Stuart_C said:
He was.

Unfortunately he was trying to build meccano using Lego :D
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Both of them blaggers, both appointed at Liverpool, both failed, even Kenny's return failed by comparison, Now you've got Klipperty....anyone for connect 4 :mmm:

:smirk:
 
Crazyface said:
Get Glen Hoddle back in. at least he was working towards something. ( 'Arry Redknap reckons he'd do a good job).
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Yes, let's look to the future by appointing someone who can't get was job in football management so is reduced to utterly banal punditry on TV. Do you want to bring back David Batty, Paul Ince as well?
 
Was a firm supporter of Hodgson based on what I saw him do for my own team and based on England results. I said after the WC shambles he needed to improve or go and despite the mediocrity of the group he had a perfect record. Performances like the one in Germany ultimately flattered to deceive and he was found out this summer and had to go.

He isn't the first Englamd manager to have taken the tea, so far but then been unable to kick on when it really matters. The whole set up and ethos needs looking at but I imagine it'll be more of the same and the same questions being asked in two years after another early WC exit
 
Fish said:
Both of them blaggers, both appointed at Liverpool, both failed, even Kenny's return failed by comparison, Now you've got Klipperty....anyone for connect 4 :mmm:

:smirk:
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Excuse me Kenny delivered silverware :ears:

Anyway, Hodgson didn't manage us.......
 
Has Chris Coleman been mentioned yet, seems like an obvious choice to me.

BTW I still rate the England players [with the exemption of the goalie]. I think they have a bright future.

They went into the Iceland game with the same attitude as the fans, press and a few on here.
They thought it was going to be a walk in the park, but Iceland had a good recent record and their team effort was much greater than England.

Hodgson's tactics seemed OK to me, the team just did not perform on that particular night.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Has Chris Coleman been mentioned yet, seems like an obvious choice to me.

BTW I still rate the England players [with the exemption of the goalie]. I think they have a bright future.

They went into the Iceland game with the same attitude as the fans, press and a few on here.
They thought it was going to be a walk in the park, but Iceland had a good recent record and their team effort was much greater than England.

Hodgson's tactics seemed OK to me, the team just did not perform on that particular night.
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Mmmm, think you are over egging the pudding there. Yes the team were awful but England have no defined pattern to how they play. And a lot of that is down to tactics. or in Englands case, the lack of them.

Also not sure, other than money, why Coleman would want to move. I think Wales genuinely are a better team. Yes England may be better 'on paper' or on combined wages, but where it matters Wales are quite clearly currently better. http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport...ing-extremely-good-at-football-20160702110088
 
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First choice would be Crazyface but yet again the FA won't appoint the right man for the job:thup:

Second choice would be Hoddle, played at the highest level, had a decent record at club management , good record when managing England before, sacked for non football reasons.

It still annoys me intensely Hodgson wasn't sacked after Brazil, if we had put someone else in charge it could have been so different In France Such a waste of time since the last W/C.
 
Beezerk said:
You're kidding right?
A rubbish England team made Wales look poor in the group game. I think you're over estimating how good Wales are, they've done superbly to get to the semis but flatter to deceive imo.
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who the best team is is is not just simply a case of looking at the direct match ups. But even if you do England beat Wales in the last minute, but Wales topped the group. Wales have gone onto the semi finals, easily beating the second ranked team in the world. And they have done this not by flukey performances and nicking it, but by being the better team.

England have been knocked out of every major championship in the last decade or so mostly with a pitifully poor performance against allegedly inferior opposition. Yes you may argue that Wales have less strength in depth, but from the evidence I've seen when it matters i.e. the current major championship, Wales are quite demonstrably the better form team.
 
Rlburnside said:
First choice would be Crazyface but yet again the FA won't appoint the right man for the job:thup:

Second choice would be Hoddle, played at the highest level, had a decent record at club management , good record when managing England before, sacked for non football reasons.

It still annoys me intensely Hodgson wasn't sacked after Brazil, if we had put someone else in charge it could have been so different In France Such a waste of time since the last W/C.
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I suppose if you class failing to make the most of the golden generation and winning chuff all at club or national level a good record then it kind of shows how desperate England are. And have you heard his tactical insights on ITV? You really think this is the best tactical brain English football has?? Please no
 
Hacker Khan said:
who the best team is is is not just simply a case of looking at the direct match ups. But even if you do England beat Wales in the last minute, but Wales topped the group. Wales have gone onto the semi finals, easily beating the second ranked team in the world. And they have done this not by flukey performances and nicking it, but by being the better team.

England have been knocked out of every major championship in the last decade or so mostly with a pitifully poor performance against allegedly inferior opposition. Yes you may argue that Wales have less strength in depth, but from the evidence I've seen when it matters i.e. the current major championship, Wales are quite demonstrably the better form team.
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Better team and in better form are 2 different things, we didn't only beat Wales in the last minute we totally dominated the game in all areas and our goalkeeper made a mistake for their goal,
Cup competitions are not always about the best players, Wales have proved what team spirit and effort can produce.
And after last nights shocker, probably the best team to watch in the comp (apart from their performance against us)
Good luck to them, wouldn't surprise me if they went all the way and won it.
 
Hacker Khan said:
I suppose if you class failing to make the most of the golden generation and winning chuff all at club or national level a good record then it kind of shows how desperate England are. And have you heard his tactical insights on ITV? You really think this is the best tactical brain English football has?? Please no
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Well he got Swindon promoted, got Spurs to L/C final , semi- final cup winners cup,Chelsea to FA cup final or semi- final( can't remember which) not a bad record I would suggest. Better England record than most,highly respected amongst his peers l think it was Ferdinand that said he was the best manager he has played under.

Been at the highest level as player and manager, light years ahead of Hodgson in regards of man management and tactics not afraid to make tough decisions look at the way he left Gazza out.
 
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