New Rules 2019 - Relief Area

Colin L

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So it says you must use the club you are going to use for the shot.
What happens if you drop in a divot or get a really bad lie .
Can you change clubs.?
How can it say it makes the drop area the same size for everyone as someone who plays clubs 3” longer has a bigger area than someone who plays 3” shorter than standard.
Or have I read it wrong. .?

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You will be required to determine the nearest point of complete relief for the club, stance and swing you'd have used. You don't have to simulate your stance etc it but it's recommended that you do. The relief area is a club length from that point. A club length is defined as the length of the longest club in your bag excluding your putter.
Your ball must land in and stay in that area. You will, as now, be able to play with any club of your choice.

While the relief areas of players with longer or shorter clubs than standard will differ very slightly, it's not significant. We'll no longer have the inconsistencies of a ball rolling up to two club lengths. Everyone will be playing from within the same distance from the NPCR.

Remember that you'll be dropping from knee height and should easily manage to avoid dropping into a divot hole. If you don't, that's just too bad.
 

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Starting a new thread to answer this.

You will be required to determine the nearest point of complete relief for the club, stance and swing you'd have used. You don't have to simulate your stance etc it but it's recommended that you do. The relief area is a club length from that point. A club length is defined as the length of the longest club in your bag excluding your putter.
Your ball must land in and stay in that area. You will, as now, be able to play with any club of your choice.

While the relief areas of players with longer or shorter clubs than standard will differ very slightly, it's not significant. We'll no longer have the inconsistencies of a ball rolling up to two club lengths. Everyone will be playing from within the same distance from the NPCR.

Remember that you'll be dropping from knee height and should easily manage to avoid dropping into a divot hole. If you don't, that's just too bad.
Yes forgot the knee height thing , but some people are taller than others so short people get a result for a change ha “only joking” cheers Colin.
 

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Yes forgot the knee height thing , but some people are taller than others so short people get a result for a change ha “only joking” cheers Colin.

I confess that I spotted one of our somewhat shorter members on the course recently and seriously thought for a moment, that's not going to be fair - I'm 6'2" , his knees are nearer the ground than mine. Then the "doh" hit me. It won't be any different: his shouders are nearer the ground as it is.
 

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Starting a new thread to answer this.

You will be required to determine the nearest point of complete relief for the club, stance and swing you'd have used. You don't have to simulate your stance etc it but it's recommended that you do. The relief area is a club length from that point. A club length is defined as the length of the longest club in your bag excluding your putter.
Your ball must land in and stay in that area. You will, as now, be able to play with any club of your choice.

While the relief areas of players with longer or shorter clubs than standard will differ very slightly, it's not significant. We'll no longer have the inconsistencies of a ball rolling up to two club lengths. Everyone will be playing from within the same distance from the NPCR.

Remember that you'll be dropping from knee height and should easily manage to avoid dropping into a divot hole. If you don't, that's just too bad.

Not really speeding up play is it?

Mark the nearest point to where the ball is in the problem area. Pull a club and establish what point gives you complete relief, mark the spot. Go get your driver and measure a club length, mark the spot. Drop the ball from knee height and review the lie, either use the original club or change again.

Hit the shot and wake your playing partners up.
 

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Not really speeding up play is it?

Mark the nearest point to where the ball is in the problem area. Pull a club and establish what point gives you complete relief, mark the spot. Go get your driver and measure a club length, mark the spot. Drop the ball from knee height and review the lie, either use the original club or change again.

Hit the shot and wake your playing partners up.

It is (hopefully) speeding things up

Currently drop from shoulder height wait to see if rolls more than two clubs away or closer to the hole -yes it does chase after it, redrop same thing happens, place it - repeatedly will not stay on the spot ...

2019 Drop from knee height hopefully should stay in the relief area which is only one club, less time to see what happens, quicker to get the ball and drop again, if it does go outside the area place if it will not stay in the same place after two attempts find a spot where it will stay at rest.

Plus a lot less time arguing with players who do not realise that the ball is allowed to role two clubs (currently).
 

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Generally, it takes no time at all to find you NPR and drop a ball within a club length - you're not required to measure. Dropping from knee height and the requirement that the ball lands in and stays in the relief area will be time savers.
 
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