New lockdown will courses close?

[IanM]

Given the thread's title...the answer is now confirmed as "yes, they are."

Good night all.... in Wales we've had our closure while you lot were playing. We're back Monday. Till the next break. And...there will be one. So we need to get used to it.

 

[Blue in Munich]

The River Wey runs through Wisley in Surrey. South of it as an RHS member or paying visitors you are free to wander round a large area of wide open green space. There will be no natural spacing of people as they will be free to roam wherever they like and numbers will be high. North of the river is The Wisley Golf Club. This also has a similar wide open green area that people could potentially wander round. Spacing would be much better controlled, numbers more limited and yet this can’t be used as intended. You could wander round it without clubs, just not use the course as intended. Using it just to walk round will of course lead to much greater possibility of getting close to people than it’s design purpose would allow.

No one that I am aware of is asking for golf to be treated as a special case; every one that I have spoken to would simply like a degree of logic applied to the circumstances.

Town centres are as busy as ever as shops drive a coach and horses through the click and collect exemption, schools and universities, the biggest cause of virus spread in my opinion, remain open, but something that could function perfectly reasonably is banned.

Utter madness.

 

[USER1999]

The other thing with golf, versus walking in a park, is that every person playing has been booked in, and is available for contact should a playing partner subsequently get covid.

People you meet / pass in the park, less so, unless they have the app, and who does?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

The River Wey runs through Wisley in Surrey. South of it as an RHS member or paying visitors you are free to wander round a large area of wide open green space. There will be no natural spacing of people as they will be free to roam wherever they like and numbers will be high. North of the river is The Wisley Golf Club. This also has a similar wide open green area that people could potentially wander round. Spacing would be much better controlled, numbers more limited and yet this can’t be used as intended. You could wander round it without clubs, just not use the course as intended. Using it just to walk round will of course lead to much greater possibility of getting close to people than it’s design purpose would allow.

No one that I am aware of is asking for golf to be treated as a special case; every one that I have spoken to would simply like a degree of logic applied to the circumstances.

Town centres are as busy as ever as shops drive a coach and horses through the click and collect exemption, schools and universities, the biggest cause of virus spread in my opinion, remain open, but something that could function perfectly reasonably is banned.

Utter madness.

Spot on!

The other thing with golf, versus walking in a park, is that every person playing has been booked in, and is available for contact should a playing partner subsequently get covid.

People you meet / pass in the park, less so, unless they have the app, and who does?

Good point!

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Always tickles me the idea of non-believers 'praying' for help and/or guidance from something they don't believe exists in any shape or form. it's not going to stop the ball hit towards the lake going in it... But I shall be doing whatever I can do on that front for our sport opening back up as soon as possible.

I agree but it also tickles me(being euphemistic) that believers think it OK to pray for God to cause a result . Thus, if one candidate/side/etc wins then God causes the other to lose.
Poor bugger just as well not have tried, and in the context of your post, a lot of people just as well not have voted!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It’s frustrating for us because we all know that it can be done safely but it’s also clear they wanted to put all Amatuer sport into one bowl and treat them all the same in a four week block - people cant even go for a ride on a horse. But as golfers we have been very lucky that we have managed to get so much sport in , some sports have had their leagues cancelled totally before even starting , it was always going to be hard for them to treat single sports

I still think the best way was to carry on the local restrictions- but Wales and Ireland have had closures , at one stage we always were going be closed - better now in the wintertime

 

[Rlburnside]

I wish people would stop bleating about courses being closed in England, it’s only 4 weeks and it’s winter.

I would agree though playing golf would be more safe than many other things that are open.

More important things to worry about at the moment.

 

[robinthehood]

It’s frustrating for us because we all know that it can be done safely but it’s also clear they wanted to put all Amatuer sport into one bowl and treat them all the same in a four week block - people cant even go for a ride on a horse. But as golfers we have been very lucky that we have managed to get so much sport in , some sports have had their leagues cancelled totally before even starting , it was always going to be hard for them to treat single sports

I still think the best way was to carry on the local restrictions- but Wales and Ireland have had closures , at one stage we always were going be closed - better now in the wintertime

Horse riding is still allowed and riding schools are open...

 

[robinthehood]

I wish people would stop bleating about courses being closed in England, it’s only 4 weeks and it’s winter.

I would agree though playing golf would be more safe than many other things that are open.

More important things to worry about at the moment.

Actually it's the reverse, I keep seeing post like yours bleating on and bemoaning anyone who cares to discuss the closure.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yesterday a man lost his wife and his two sons in a couple of days due to Covid - surely we can go 4 weeks without a game it there is a chance we can help reduce someone losing a loved one

 

[sunshine]

I don't think anyone wants the clubhouse opening, just the course would do.

Unfortunately that's not right.

Many people want to have a drink, a chat and a bite to eat. Golf clubs have gone to great lengths to facilitate this, so the demand is there. I've seen first hand at golf clubs how social distancing is ignored after a few beers, some don't even need a drink to forget.

Personally, I would be happy to just have the course open so I could get out and play and then leave straight after (like we did in May when courses re-opened). Seems like you are in the same camp.

 

[Yorkshire Hacker]

I too am unhappy about the course closures. However, if it means that in four weeks time I actually understand all the nuances of WHS then the four week ban will have been put to good use.
Currently there are 93 pages on the WHS thread, and despite Rulefan's best endeavours, (and a few others), I am still struggling.
I spent a minute or two trying to explain the new system to an eminent surgeon on Wednesday, during our last game, . This man has an incredible brain, although by his own admission, numbers, figures, calculations etc are not his strong point. I might as well have been speaking to a five year old.
So, four weeks off, and the ground is soaking wet, our course is a mud bath.
When we return (hopefully early December), I vow to understand WHS........... and hope to play the game on firmer ground!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I agree but it also tickles me(being euphemistic) that believers think it OK to pray for God to cause a result . Thus, if one candidate/side/etc wins then God causes the other to lose.
Poor bugger just as well not have tried, and in the context of your post, a lot of people just as well not have voted!

Just a little personal variation for your thinking as not all have the same beliefs. I don't pray for any God of my understanding to 'cause' anything to happen in a direct interventionist way. I do pray for those who can can make things happen or who can influence things, to seek knowledge of the right thing to do, and the strength to act according to the right thing rather than what their will might have them do.

But even with a knowledge of the right thing to do, I can still choose to act according to my will. And in that way of looking at things it's that which has, throughout history, got us into the many of messes we have got into.

And so back to whether I think golf courses should have stayed open or been closed as they have been during the lockdown...

 

[Rlburnside]

Ok

Actually it's the reverse, I keep seeing post like yours bleating on and bemoaning anyone who cares to discuss the closure.

Ok fair enough, why don’t we all stop bleating about it, it’s not going to change. ?

 

[robinthehood]

Ok


Ok fair enough, why don’t we all stop bleating about it, it’s not going to change. ?

No problem, but its a valid discussion and if people want to talk about it then thats fine too.

 

[IanM]

I wish people would stop bleating about courses being closed in England, it’s only 4 weeks and it’s winter.

I would agree though playing golf would be more safe than many other things that are open.

More important things to worry about at the moment.

True, but it is hard to understand the logic of what is ok and what isnt.... a point I put to a bloke from the DCMS on a call yesterday. He coughed and reminded me he was in the "Media" bit, not anything to do with Culture or Sport! He also said he was very pleased that was the case too!

 

[Blue in Munich]

I wish people would stop bleating about courses being closed in England, it’s only 4 weeks and it’s winter.

I would agree though playing golf would be more safe than many other things that are open.

More important things to worry about at the moment.

It’s not a bleat, it’s pointing out the utter stupidity of the current regulations. Produce some evidence that golf is causing an issue and I’ll say no more about it; ban golf whilst allowing more dangerous activities to carry on unabated and I’ll point out the discrepancies.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Yesterday a man lost his wife and his two sons in a couple of days due to Covid - surely we can go 4 weeks without a game it there is a chance we can help reduce someone losing a loved one

In Wales which was locked down ironically. I have every sympathy for his position but this isn’t the best example to exonerate the current position.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

It’s not a bleat, it’s pointing out the utter stupidity of the current regulations. Produce some evidence that golf is causing an issue and I’ll say no more about it; ban golf whilst allowing more dangerous activities to carry on unabated and I’ll point out the discrepancies.

But you are "preaching to the choir".

I don't imagine that there are many, if any, on here that would agree that shutting down golf will achieve much in the fight against coronavirus.

It is a political move and intended to show that all amateur sport is being treated in the same way.

But continuing to labour the point on a golf forum will achieve absolutely nothing.

 

[sunshine]

This is now a thread moaning about people moaning about the lockdown