BeachGolfer
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To my eye, Mickelson is a more natural talent than Bubba
"Natural" talent
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sev112
Tour Winner
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
have you ever heard the phrase,
"you cant polish a turd"
im sure with intense training that my mate would improve ten fold. no doubt, but getting him to world champion in anything sports related is just not going to happen without that natural ability imo.
look i could take all the singing lessons in the world but im never going to be a top class singer because i lack an ingredient called natural talent.
"you cant polish a turd"
im sure with intense training that my mate would improve ten fold. no doubt, but getting him to world champion in anything sports related is just not going to happen without that natural ability imo.
look i could take all the singing lessons in the world but im never going to be a top class singer because i lack an ingredient called natural talent.
richart
Major Champion
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
Jim Furyk's dad is a golf coach. Figure that one out.
yeah and my ma is a nun. dead on
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
I find it hard to believe that Blubba has 'never' had a golf lesson.
There can also be a 'natural talent' within a person to copy, learn, experience and memorise.
In the early 1990's I was lucky to be involved with a group of six very talented young golfers, all from the same club.
One was outstanding, British Age group Champion three years on the trot. Played for England Boys for 5 years, Brabazon trophy winner, England's top amateur for two years.
I would bet that no one would remember his name now.
Another one of group went on to be a Ryder Cup player. He was not blessed with what I would call 'natural talent' but he was composed, clever, patient, listened well, and had a great attitude.
There can also be a 'natural talent' within a person to copy, learn, experience and memorise.
In the early 1990's I was lucky to be involved with a group of six very talented young golfers, all from the same club.
One was outstanding, British Age group Champion three years on the trot. Played for England Boys for 5 years, Brabazon trophy winner, England's top amateur for two years.
I would bet that no one would remember his name now.
Another one of group went on to be a Ryder Cup player. He was not blessed with what I would call 'natural talent' but he was composed, clever, patient, listened well, and had a great attitude.
richart
Major Champion
yeah and my ma is a nun. dead on
Mike Furyk was a golf pro, before he become son Jims only ever coach.
richart
Major Champion
Larry Nelson took up golf aged 21, and went on to win majors, and play in the Ryder Cup. Must have had some natural talent.
LanDog
Journeyman Pro
They say that Rory's swing was just his natural swing including his rhythm, backswing and finishing postion. If that is true then Rory has to be considered as a natural talent to behold. I personally don't believe it. Nothing can be that naturally perfect.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
May be that when he was a baby, toddler, what ever, his parents didn't play enough games with him to develop the necessary skills early enough. Skills not developed here can't be developed as well later on. It doesn't have to be genetic, or talent, it can just be that he never learnt the motor coordination necessary.
I blame the parents.
sev112
Tour Winner
The neuroscientists say that you ahev eth ability to develop and hone new physcal skills certanily up to yoru late 20s and early 30s and become extremely proficient (subject to sufficinet well focussed practice). After that it is possible to mantain, but the physico-chemical bonds in the neurocircuits are much more easily damaged and require rebuilding and that gets harder the older we are.
However, it is possible to retain motor co-ordination skills into very late life, as long as the use of the skill is contniued.
At younger ages, one can develop an enhanced skill and then not use it for circa 1 to 2 months at max, and then get back to that level very quickly. Any gap longer than 2 months and you have to start the process of building these physio-chemical bonds on the neoro circuits again.
The stuff is called "myelin" and it grows around each neuro circuit that has to "fire" each time you make a motor co-ordination movement. The more times you do it, the more the myelin wraps around the circuit and "insulates" it, which means that any future "firing" of the circuit is done in exactly eth same way and doesnt get diverted into operating other muscles. It's like insulating an electric wire - the ones that send the best and repeated electric signals are the ones that are well insulated.
This is why in golf it is very difficult to stop doing an ingrained bad swing movement.
It is also why the most repeatable swings are those that have been ingrained, and which the competitor is not thinking about during the process.
Sorry !
znuffzz
Head Pro
this. he's a product of the us collegiate golf system which is a notoriously intensive training and instructional regime and has been under the watchful eye of golf course owners, trainers, coaches etc all his wife.
numerous articles on it in US local press etc.
to say he has never had a lesson is absolutle piffle at best
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Interesting stuff sev112.
My friends father played off about 8 for most of his life.
He retired aged 66 and got down to 3 within two years.
He became a bit of a club legend and died aged 90 playing golf.
My friends father played off about 8 for most of his life.
He retired aged 66 and got down to 3 within two years.
He became a bit of a club legend and died aged 90 playing golf.
