my first comp !!!!!

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im playing my first comp tomorrow morning in the Sunday roll up , i cant bloody wait !!!! well thats how i feel right now , probably gonna be bricking it in the morning lol.

the trouble is im not sure how to score correctly , now im sure the guys im drawn with will help me out but i would like to be prepared and able to concentrate on my own game and im sure they would rather be able to do that as well, so if any body can give me some guidance it would be most appreciated .... many thanks
 

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Depends what sort of competition you are playing in. If it is a medal you need to record their gross score in the player A column on the card. You mark yours in the markers column (its important you keep a track of your score in case of dicrepancies so that you can check back hole by hole).

If it is a stableford you need to record the gross score as before but then put in the points per hole in the points column. Remember that you need to put the points after taking into account any shots received. Therefore if the guy scores a gross 4 on a par 4 and receives a shot it will be a 4 nett 3 and 3 points. If he gets a par and no shots it is 2 points and a bogey 1 point. I'm sure I'm teaching you to suck eggs with this bit !! Make sure you put your points down as well.

If it is something different like a bogey comp I can explain on a separate post.

If you don't understand make sure you ask. They would rather that than you mark the card wrong with the potential for the player to sign for a wrong card and be DQ'd. Most people are actually quite helpful to newbies. If you check with them before you tee off it lets them get on with their game and so can you.

Good luck tomorrow. Let us know how you get on
 

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At one club I played at, I never recorded anything other than my gross score.....some of the guys would write 5/2 (5 shots for 2 points) or something similar in the box. I don't believe I wrote dwon the points last Sat either....is there a standard "way" for things to be done, or is it ok just to record the gross - from a rules perspective?
 

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Excellent reply by Homer as usual.

Just played my first comp today! :D

I was a bit nervous but things worked out good. I took advice from some of the guys on here and it certainly worked.
The main thing is to relax and enjoy it mate. Sure, you'll make a few bum shots.......like I did. But, if you let your partners know you're a newcomer to competitions I'm sure they'll cut you some slack.
If you're unsure about the points system if playing Stableford just ask after you've all holed out. Don't mark your card on the green though!!! Bad, bad etiquette! Wait until you're at the next tee before marking.

Hope the weather's kinder to you than it was to me. Enjoy your game mate, let us know how you got on.
 

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thank you , the format is going to be matchplay or stableford , still a bit confused about stableford though , lets say i score a 5 on a par 4 and i get a shot would that mean i score 2 points and if i scored a 6 on a par 4 would that be 1 point ???

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thank you , the format is going to be matchplay or stableford , still a bit confused about stableford though , lets say i score a 5 on a par 4 and i get a shot would that mean i score 2 points and if i scored a 6 on a par 4 would that be 1 point ???

thanks

Exactly...try and make at least a point when things go pear-shaped. An ugly 6 on a par 4 with a shot still gets you something....
 

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Your assumption on the points is right. In most monthly stablefords you get your full handicap allowance so in your case hippygilmore you will receive a shot on every hole with stroke index 1-14. On the holes with index-15 your gross score will count. So if you make par on those four holes it is 2 points, bogey = 1 and anything above that is a big fat lonely 0 (sad times). Should you get a gross birdie it will be 3 points (good times).

On the other 14 holes it will be the nett score that dictates your points. Gross par (net birdie) = 3 gross birdie (net eagle - el bandito) = 4 points. Bogey (net par) = 2 points and double bogey (net bogey) = 1 point.

You will need to confirm the type of competition though because in stableford each competitor is playing against the course (highest points wins) but if it is matchplay you are playing directly against your playing partners. In matchplay you normally only get a % of your full handicap and the lowest net score wins the hole (it is halved if the net scores are equal). You continue until you or your opponent are more holes ahead than there are left ahead. Therefore if your winning by 4 holes with only 3 left to go you would have won 4&3.

Best to clarify the format. If it is matchplay there is no need to record the scores as putts can be conceded (don't need to hole out). In stablefird every shot is registered until the ball lies at the bottom of the hole.
 

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don't you just hate that , people marking there card on the green , thanks for the advice and it looks like the weather is going to hold out , i have also had a few people hitting there drives very close to me as im waiting for the group in front to play there shot which i think is god dam rude , i tend not to say anything as i would probably blow my top at them and get booted out the club , now i just take my mobile phone out my bag and make it look as if im phoning the clubhouse to report them and they soon stop lol
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now i just take my mobile phone out my bag and make it look as if im phoning the clubhouse to report them and they soon stop lol
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I always carry my mobile with me (have it on silent) as a precaution. We had a guy die on the first about a month ago and there were several guys working on him for about 10 minutes (CPR and mouth to mouth) before the ambulance arrived. Imagine being taken ill out on your 14th hole and trying to get help otherwise!

That said our club won't let you use them anywhere other than the car park. I personally think the locker room is acceptable as all people are doing is getting changed. It doesn't impact anyone eating or drinking in the bar, the pro shop, secretary's office etc but the powers that be say no so its out in the cold and wet if you need to make that call
 

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totally agree phones shouldn't be used on the course for general purpose and left on silent or vibrate , however this needs a sensible approach ie the emergency ..... i tend to play alot on my own and early in the morning and i am often the first person there , can you imagine if you put your foot down a hole and broke your ankle , you could be in for a very painful long wait for some body to catch up with you and then have to wait for them to get help !
 

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many thanks homer your a legend ,just got out blank scorecard and worked it out based on a typical round in stableford format, i think i totally understand it now , lets just pray my A game shows up, if it does i could be in for a shock result as i have been shooting some low scores over last few weeks although most were on winter greens , now back on summer greens and i shot 80 on Tuesday , just been range and driver was bombastic ..
 
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Just to clarify on the original question, it is the players responsibilty to make sure that the marker records his gross score for each hole correctly, and of course sign the card, nothing more. If he fails in either of these tasks and hands the card in he is DQ'd.
He may try to total it correctly or work out stableford scoring or subtract handicap correctly but if he gets that wrong he is not disqualified - that is the duty of the match and handicap secretary to make sure totals/hamdicaps/points etc are correct. 90% of clubs use club2000 software which does this for you.

So basically relax and record gross score for your partner and for yourself, ask your partner at end of each hole his gross score to be sure you agree whilst it is fresh in your head. Don't be worrying about anything else like stableford points.
 
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