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Rory gets treated like most of the UK's biggest superstars. The press, and therefore those who believe the press, love them or hate them.
They are either going to win it all, or were rubbish and should never have been trying in the first place.
You see it so often, Rory, Murray, Hamilton, the football teams, rugby players, the managers etc

You just have to remember the last football tournament. Southgate had got England to the final, and was therefore a hero. England lost, and people were talking about how he wasn't up to the job. Despite having reached a final, and a semi in the previous tournament. Far better than all but one of his predecessors.

The tabloid press and their readers need to be ignored as the know nothings that they are.

Rory is one hell of a good golfer. World on 6. He's not washed up, he isn't finished, and he isn't the best thing since sliced bread either. He's one of a very large group of players who can win any event he turns up to.
 

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Nothing summed him up better than this week. After day one screaming headlines of 'he's back to his best!', three days later 'he's gone!' I do think he's on the way up again but his 'best on the day' is no longer on a par with Rahm and co.

I disagree, I think his best day is on a par with anyone, the problem for me is that he seems to push hard, even when it's going wrong, and that compounds the issues on the course. Of course I'm no pro golfer, I have enough problems with my own game to know what is happening with Rory's, my opinion is only based on how I see it on the TV, but I am a fan and always hope he wins. To be fair, he wasn't the only one that struggled round there over the weekend after having a decent day on Thursday, but when it goes wrong for him, he's a high profile player expected to cope better, so he gets it from all barrels by just about everyone.
 

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Since I got into golf, hes been average at best.

So blame me if you want? :ROFLMAO:

Would be nice to see a British player get a big win this year.
 

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Top 10 in the world = average at best

Tough school :eek:
This is the funny thing for me. For all the times he doesn't win, that people focus on, the implosions etc - he's still never been out of the top 10 I don't think?? He's not had that monumental drop, like Spieth had, or Fowler is having, or Kaymer or loads of others. He's so often there or there abouts, just not getting it over the line.
 

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Top 10 in the world = average at best

Tough school :eek:

I knew someone would come back with his world ranking.

Whats he actually done though really? Ive witnessed Morikawa winning in style, a bit of DJ dominance for a while and of course the Bryson show too.

Meanwhile Rory has been ripping shirts, missing cuts and generally doing average considering he is one of the biggest names in golf.

Hes won the CJ Summit Cup in 2022, Wells Fargo in 2021 and nothing else since 2019....
 

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I knew someone would come back with his world ranking.

Whats he actually done though really? Ive witnessed Morikawa winning in style, a bit of DJ dominance for a while and of course the Bryson show too.

Meanwhile Rory has been ripping shirts, missing cuts and generally doing average considering he is one of the biggest names in golf.

Hes won the CJ Summit Cup in 2022, Wells Fargo in 2021 and nothing else since 2019....

I think the point about a fresh (old school) caddy is valid. Someone to give him an iron off the tee and get him in play more often rather than the big shots and hacking out. With his length it won't affect him. Fairways and greens and get the putter hot and he's a threat. Playing like he did over the weekend and he's not going to be in the hunt.
 

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Seems to me that McIlroy's biggest 'crime' is on not being quite as good/dominant as we thought he would be. Kind of like Wayne Rooney - who ended up as England's leading goalscorer, but never really took a tournament by the scruff of the neck in the way he did his first one as a very young player, and therefore became undervalued/underrated in the eyes of some.

I think there was a genuine belief that McIlroy was going to replace Tiger as THE dominant force in golf, but perhaps that expectation was unrealistic? I do think he's underachieved compared with his talent, but not by much when you think about the quality of golf we've seen over the last decade from the leading players.
 

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Seems to me that McIlroy's biggest 'crime' is on not being quite as good/dominant as we thought he would be. Kind of like Wayne Rooney - who ended up as England's leading goalscorer, but never really took a tournament by the scruff of the neck in the way he did his first one as a very young player, and therefore became undervalued/underrated in the eyes of some.

I think there was a genuine belief that McIlroy was going to replace Tiger as THE dominant force in golf, but perhaps that expectation was unrealistic? I do think he's underachieved compared with his talent, but not by much when you think about the quality of golf we've seen over the last decade from the leading players.
Some people just peak early and spend the rest of their lives chasing it - in all sports I guess.
 
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Average ?

He had a shocker of a weekend and still finishing 13th out of 140?

He’s probably not meeting his own expectations but to call him average is comical.

There are hundreds of professional golfers who would love a whole career with the success that Rory has had in just the last couple of years.
 

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A million miles from underachieving but perhaps stagnated is a better word. Hasn't really threatened in too many majors since his last win in one and picks up the odd tour win but again doesn't seem to be a regular contender in the mix come Sunday. He has more money than he could ever dream of so just playing for a cheque doesn't seem to fit and so it's hard to fathom why he's not still right at the top of the rankings and why he can't seem to string four tournament rounds together
 
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As much as I like to see them play on tougher setups. I watched a lot of the final round and some of it was silly.
 

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I disagree, I think his best day is on a par with anyone, the problem for me is that he seems to push hard, even when it's going wrong, and that compounds the issues on the course. Of course I'm no pro golfer, I have enough problems with my own game to know what is happening with Rory's, my opinion is only based on how I see it on the TV, but I am a fan and always hope he wins. To be fair, he wasn't the only one that struggled round there over the weekend after having a decent day on Thursday, but when it goes wrong for him, he's a high profile player expected to cope better, so he gets it from all barrels by just about everyone.


He does get far more stick than anyone by a mile when it goes wrong. For everyone else it's a blip, for him it's his head or his wedge game or his putting have gone to pot. I always hope he wins too, don't think there's a better high-end pro for opinion and likeability etc. I do think that others have passed him a bit and that Rahm is far more likely to win multiple times in a season and contend in majors more. Hopefully I'm wrong
 

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I don’t see an anomaly from historical precedent: Nearly all great players who’ve won multiple majors, have won the overwhelming bulk of them in a few years of absolute peak form - generally not longer than a 9 year stretch. Sure, they’ll be there or thereabouts for a few more, and there’s the chance of Norman in 08 and Watson in 09 — and Tiger 19, Phil last year — but these were fairytale outliers..

A nine year career high-point of form is true for Seve, Faldo, Price and true for Tiger also (winning 13 of his 15 majors in a 9 year stretch)

Rory hasn’t won for 8 years - and won his majors when arguably the peak of the world game wasn’t as strong as it is now.

Driver distance was always a big part of his advantage, and quite a few others are on a par with him with that and many elite younger players are honing that skill as a key part of their development
 

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As much as I like to see them play on tougher setups. I watched a lot of the final round and some of it was silly.

Due to the course set up? Or their play?…. I certainly didn’t see anything remotely silly about the course set up - It rewarded accuracy and skill. Tougher set up the better, make them work for it and show who’s got the game, and can hold their nerve.
 
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