Loss of childcare.. another blow

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Breathe Bri, just keep breathing...

Is the child tax credit an essential for you?

Why should I be paying tax to bring up your kid(s) when I earn less than you?

Your kids, your responsibility. Cut your cloth accordingly.
 
bluewolf said:
It wont though. It'll end up in the hands of someone who knows how to use the system better.. I will lose my child benefit next year, but thats OK. I chose to have children, I'll pay for them thank you very much...
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My household only gets circa £30K but I wouldn't winge if my child benefit was withdrawn, we'd get by.... as you say (and I agree with you) it was our choice to have kids. I DEFINITELY wouldn't whinge if we were making £60K !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
to the people that say "you chose to have kids" "i dont want any" "it was your decision" etc etc etc...

Who is going to be the doctor, policeman, fireman, soldier, truck driver, road sweeper in 25 years time? as a society, children are required. The nation is already getting older due to enhancements in medicine and care etc. The people who slate having kids need to think a bit bigger than their little bubble.. if no-one chose to have children, who would look after them when you get old? etc etc...
 
Rooter said:
to the people that say "you chose to have kids" "i dont want any" "it was your decision" etc etc etc...

Who is going to be the doctor, policeman, fireman, soldier, truck driver, road sweeper in 25 years time? as a society, children are required. The nation is already getting older due to enhancements in medicine and care etc. The people who slate having kids need to think a bit bigger than their little bubble.. if no-one chose to have children, who would look after them when you get old? etc etc...
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You left out 'who will choose/put you in a retirement home' in that list.. :whistle:
 
Rooter said:
to the people that say "you chose to have kids" "i dont want any" "it was your decision" etc etc etc...

Who is going to be the doctor, policeman, fireman, soldier, truck driver, road sweeper in 25 years time? as a society, children are required. The nation is already getting older due to enhancements in medicine and care etc. The people who slate having kids need to think a bit bigger than their little bubble.. if no-one chose to have children, who would look after them when you get old? etc etc...
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Unfortunately, when you start making "breeding" a career choice, then a large number of the kids who you have encouraged will be born into households where work is a 4 letter word. Nobody will want to be the doctor, policeman, truck driver etc, as they'll all want to be part of the gravy train. Kids are a product of their environment (usually)......
 
bluewolf said:
Unfortunately, when you start making "breeding" a career choice, then a large number of the kids who you have encouraged will be born into households where work is a 4 letter word. Nobody will want to be the doctor, policeman, truck driver etc, as they'll all want to be part of the gravy train. Kids are a product of their environment (usually)......
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I agree, so i am a professional working adult, my wife is also qualified in a profession (although currently a housewife), so my kids are certainly not on a gravy train. My kids have learnt very quickly the value of money and how to earn it. ie by hard work. nothing in life should be for free. you get free education, but start working and you pay it back by taxation. I agree that families living off benefits should have capped payments to a maximum number of children to prevent the "large family" milking the benefits system.

Also, while i am on a rant... those "out of work" and receiving benefits should have to work for "free" (litter picking, graffiti cleaning, care, charity work etc etc) to earn their job seekers etc etc..
 
Rooter said:
Also, while i am on a rant... those "out of work" and receiving benefits should have to work for "free" (litter picking, graffiti cleaning, care, charity work etc etc) to earn their job seekers etc etc..
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Have to agree with you on that one, people on benefits shouldn't get cash, it should be paid as a voucher scheme. You get things from the state you need to earn it.
 
Rooter said:
Also, while i am on a rant... those "out of work" and receiving benefits should have to work for "free" (litter picking, graffiti cleaning, care, charity work etc etc) to earn their job seekers etc etc..
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NURSE!!! He's out!!!..... bring pills!!!! :whoo:
 
Some folk need to get a grip.
Earning over £60k a year and they want the taxes paid by some single OAP to help subsidise the upbringing of the childern the chose to make.

The last months benefit I recieved for my children in 1986 helped pay for a ski holiday, I am sure that the benefit was not designed for that purpose.
 
Rooter said:
to the people that say "you chose to have kids" "i dont want any" "it was your decision" etc etc etc...

Who is going to be the doctor, policeman, fireman, soldier, truck driver, road sweeper in 25 years time? as a society, children are required. The nation is already getting older due to enhancements in medicine and care etc. The people who slate having kids need to think a bit bigger than their little bubble.. if no-one chose to have children, who would look after them when you get old? etc etc...
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Don't be daft the smaller the population the smaller the number of people required to manage it.
 
Regardless of how you dress it up, anyone earning over £60k a year on their own doesnt deserve any help from the government and I have to say it's poor show complaining about it publicly, you wont get much sympathy here I reckon. Your kids, your choice amd should be your bill IMO.

The concept the government have of withholding child benefit for higher earners whilst right is being administered incorrectly and agree it should be household income based and not individual.
 
Valentino said:
Regardless of how you dress it up, anyone earning over £60k a year on their own doesnt deserve any help from the government and I have to say it's poor show complaining about it publicly, you wont get much sympathy here I reckon. Your kids, your choice amd should be your bill IMO.

The concept the government have of withholding child benefit for higher earners whilst right is being administered incorrectly and agree it should be household income based and not individual.
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^^^^ this. We get it, we don't need it. We saved it up and bought a climbing frame. a really big climbing frame :thup: it was tough to put together.

Give it to someone who needs it !!
 
Rooter said:
Also, while i am on a rant... those "out of work" and receiving benefits should have to work for "free" (litter picking, graffiti cleaning, care, charity work etc etc) to earn their job seekers etc etc..
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Great idea!
Get someone out of work doing a job that someone out of work could be getting paid to do. Genius.
 
walshawwhippet said:
Great idea!Get someone out of work doing a job that someone out of work could be getting paid to do. Genius.
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Well if they were out of work and getting job seekers allowance, make them earn it. If the actual paid job was available in the job centre and they didn't want it, stop their benefits. Genius!
 
I've just done the Direct Gov website tax credit calculator (including childcare costs) as we currently don't get any help at all. We both work full time and the wee boy is at Childminder at a cost of £150 per week.
With a combined annual income of £50k, we are entitled to.... drum roll.... £0.00... Nil, nada... Bumpkiss.

So how people earning >£60k are getting anything is a mystery to me.
We chose to both work so that we can afford to have a child, I don't expect anyone else to pay for it but it boils my piss that my tax pays for others better off than we are to get something the government tell me I'm not entitled to.
Another classic case of why this country has gone down the dunger and Labour managed to put the c**t in country.
 
Child benefit mate, not tax credits. You will get child benefit. If you're not getting it then you should look into it as you are entitled to it.
 
bluewolf said:
Child benefit mate, not tax credits. You will get child benefit. If you're not getting it then you should look into it as you are entitled to it.
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Thought the OP was about childcare (childcare element of tax credit) rather than child benefit. My mistake if not.
Don't think we claim child benefit either, can't remember filling any forms in.
 
I think there's a few ramifications of a policy change currently doing the rounds. They appear to be still paying the benefit, but then fining you via the tax system the exact amount you get "paid". I've not fully looked into it yet as I only got the letter this morning.
 
noooooooooo, do not start me on this, very sore subject in my house.

Single parent, 3 kids and working full time. Get next to nowt off the state bar child benefit and a smidge of tax credits. take home approx 2k a month ish so not too shabby but still a struggle some months (I know my recent ebay thrifts say otherwise but I done 1k in overtime last month so it is well deserved :) )

My ex however doesnt work and neither does her tosspot husband. they had 2 holidays abroad last year and are going again over christmas!!!!!!! I get £5 a week maintenance total for all 3. My daughter asked me how they can have holidays and their tv is bigger than ours as they dont work. I just said cos they dont pay rent etc, she said that sounds good!!! She even said why do I work overtime all the time cos we have less than them, it just slapped me in the face but it sort of made me wonder.

Maybe I should just sponge off the state and play golf every day, I think a 5 day membership would suffice saving me a bit more. I would still be off 22 though :thup:
 
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