Loss of childcare.. another blow

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G1BB0 said:
noooooooooo, do not start me on this, very sore subject in my house.

Single parent, 3 kids and working full time. Get next to nowt off the state bar child benefit and a smidge of tax credits. take home approx 2k a month ish so not too shabby but still a struggle some months (I know my recent ebay thrifts say otherwise but I done 1k in overtime last month so it is well deserved :) )

My ex however doesnt work and neither does her tosspot husband. they had 2 holidays abroad last year and are going again over christmas!!!!!!! I get £5 a week maintenance total for all 3. My daughter asked me how they can have holidays and their tv is bigger than ours as they dont work. I just said cos they dont pay rent etc, she said that sounds good!!! She even said why do I work overtime all the time cos we have less than them, it just slapped me in the face but it sort of made me wonder.

Maybe I should just sponge off the state and play golf every day, I think a 5 day membership would suffice saving me a bit more. I would still be off 22 though :thup:
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Sadly some people ken how to work (well, not work actually!) and abuse the system. We have at my home club a 3 time club champion who lives of the state and plays 36 holes a day plus has his lunch and a few pints every day at the golf club! Wish my health was that bad!
 
Are you telling me that a couple living together earning a combined £98,000 a year get benefit? :confused:
If so, can someone tell me why please?
 
bobmac said:
Are you telling me that a couple living together earning a combined £98,000 a year get benefit? :confused:
If so, can someone tell me why please?
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Because means testing every family would cost more than the new policy would save. It's a sensible policy, just being done in a stupid way. Welcome to modern Britain, where it's easier to punish the middle classes than it is to ask Costa Coffee to pay their tax.
 
Because means testing every family would cost more than the new policy would save
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I wonder who made that decision and how much he/she earns a year.

If it's that hard to means test every household, how do they manage it on Council Tax?
 
GreiginFife said:
Thought the OP was about childcare (childcare element of tax credit) rather than child benefit. My mistake if not.
Don't think we claim child benefit either, can't remember filling any forms in.
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You are eligible for child benefit.. Approx £80 per week, which should take care of your child minder.. Also as neither of you earn over 50k by Jan 2013, you will continue to get the benefit. Google child benefit and fill out the form, painless process.
 
bluewolf said:
Welcome to modern Britain, where it's easier to punish the middle classes than it is to ask Costa Coffee to pay their tax.
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That kind of sums it up.... If it was not for the golf, I wud be out
 
vkurup said:
You are eligible for child benefit.. Approx £80 per week, which should take care of your child minder.. Also as neither of you earn over 50k by Jan 2013, you will continue to get the benefit. Google child benefit and fill out the form, painless process.
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£80 per month with 1 child. If not I've been swindled by the gov for 17 years
 
Valentino said:
£80 per month with 1 child. If not I've been swindled by the gov for 17 years
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Correct, well something like that anyway. Currently we get £180 for 3 kids. (dont shout at me, they give it to you!! I pay my taxes, so I am taking some back for now if thats ok!!) Currently EVERYONE gets child benefit (or is at least eligible for), David Cameron, Peter Jones, Madonna etc etc...
 
vkurup said:
You are eligible for child benefit.. Approx £80 per week, which should take care of your child minder.. Also as neither of you earn over 50k by Jan 2013, you will continue to get the benefit. Google child benefit and fill out the form, painless process.
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I filled in the form for child benefit. £20 per week. Better than nowt, that's my golf subs covered :D.
 
The way that the Child Benefit thing will work is as follows

If you currently claim it, you will keep getting the money every 4 weeks irrespective of your income
However if anyone in your family earns more than £50K it will be reclaimed in their tax.

Those earning between £50k & £60K will have the benefit reclaimed on a sliding scale, so someone earning £51k will keep some, whilst someone on £61K will have it all reclaimed.

so the winners are.......The Accountants

Fragger
 
Mungoscorner said:
Quite possibly the WORST thread i've ever seen on this forum.
Wahhhhh Wahhhhh i only earn circa £60k and i can't claim any childcare benefits.
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Sorry mate... that would be Nuts of the world reporting style.. or shall I say Out of context.

Dont have an issue with the CB being cut, it is all the other things around it (people milking the sys)+ the fact that fuel & rail are going up next year, that it is getting v v difficult to maintain standard of living.

Or as bluewolf mentioned.. it's easier to punish the middle classes than it is to ask Costa Coffee to pay their tax.
 
Mungoscorner said:
Quite possibly the WORST thread i've ever seen on this forum.
Wahhhhh Wahhhhh i only earn circa £60k and i can't claim any childcare benefits.
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Ok for arguments sake I earn £61k a year, my wife does not work, but my next door neighbors who both work and earn £48k a year EACH will get the benefit... that's what grates me...
 
vkurup said:
Sorry mate... that would be Nuts of the world reporting style.. or shall I say Out of context.

Dont have an issue with the CB being cut, it is all the other things around it (people milking the sys)+ the fact that fuel & rail are going up next year, that it is getting v v difficult to maintain standard of living.

Or as bluewolf mentioned.. it's easier to punish the middle classes than it is to ask Costa Coffee to pay their tax.
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Its the same for us all though, we went down to one car over a year ago due to rising costs of fuel. I now cycle in and out of work to save money, we don't eat out anywhere near as often as we used to. Everyone has to trim their cloth accordingly. While I do agree that there are other areas that the government could save money and other groups that they could target to save millions I see no need or benefit to moan about it on the forum when your probably in a better position than a lot of people on here to absorb the costs/losses. Your currently in a well paid full time job.
 
thecraw said:
Its the same for us all though, we went down to one car over a year ago due to rising costs of fuel. I now cycle in and out of work to save money, we don't eat out anywhere near as often as we used to. Everyone has to trim their cloth accordingly. While I do agree that there are other areas that the government could save money and other groups that they could target to save millions I see no need or benefit to moan about it on the forum when your probably in a better position than a lot of people on here to absorb the costs/losses. Your currently in a well paid full time job.
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^^^^^ this. There are lots of areas where I can cut costs before I get anywhere near worrying. Anyone who has seen my car can tell you that it is an area I have already started to save on. I agree with the cut to CB, but I also want to see an aggressive stance on large corporations.
 
Rooter said:
Well if they were out of work and getting job seekers allowance, make them earn it. If the actual paid job was available in the job centre and they didn't want it, stop their benefits. Genius!
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Sorry i haven't got back to you before now, i need to be in bed by 8 to get up at 2am to do my job.
I'am sorry Rooter but you are wrong. If the work is there offer them the job period,(sorry meant fullstop). You don't make someone work for next to nowt, thats slavery. I agree with you on benefit being witheld if they refuse the job, although i believe thats the case anyway.
There are to many people today ready to tar everyone with the same brush. My lad was laid of a few weeks ago and has spent hours every day trolling job sites, sending countless cv's off and walking a 6mile round trip every other day to jobcentre to see what he might of missed. Offer him ajob cleaning the streets, cleaning of graffiti or wiping the backsides of incontinant patients on minimum wage and he'd jump at it. After all £250/wk sure beats the pittance he gets now.
The genius has spoken.. :cheers:
 
Rooter said:
Ok for arguments sake I earn £61k a year, my wife does not work, but my next door neighbors who both work and earn £48k a year EACH will get the benefit... that's what grates me...
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Don't want this to seem like it's 'pick on Rooter day' but if that's the arguement you put forward then send your wife out to work like your neighbours have done. Sorry but I don't buy it.
 
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