Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
Inbox me the date and cost, I'll try and wing it tomorrow 
London Region - King Of Kings 2014
- Thread starter jimbob.someroo
- Start date
G1BB0
Money List Winner
sweet, just noticed I get 2 shots on the 1st
jimbob.someroo
Journeyman Pro
Yup, the first 6 holes are notoriously tough to score on but having shots certainly helps - particularly on the par 4 6th.
I'm gonna do a little cheat sheet to the course to give you all some tips. I'll write it in it's on post below, feel free to copy and paste it into word or something and print off to bring along with you!
I'm gonna do a little cheat sheet to the course to give you all some tips. I'll write it in it's on post below, feel free to copy and paste it into word or something and print off to bring along with you!
jimbob.someroo
Journeyman Pro
Hole 1 - Par 4
Long-ish hole to start off. Bunker on the left of the fairway at about 240-250 but plenty of room to the right. If it's dry, you'll be able to run shots in low as there is no trouble directly in front of the green. There are bunkers right and left of the green though and as with most on the course, the green itself is quick. 5 is more than acceptable.
Hole 2 - Par 4
There's slightly more room to the left than it first appears, but too far and there's also out of bounds. A lot of people will bail out right but this brings trees into play. Not the longest hole in the world so finding the fairway is more important than an extra few yards. Green slopes hugely from back to front and so be sure to take a club more / less from the indicated markers depending on its position.
Hole 3 - Par 3
There are two tee positions, if we are off the lower level it will play about 180-190 to the middle, the upper will be closer to 210. No shame in hitting woods up here. Big mound with thick rough which blocks a view of anything missing the green to the right. Bunkers left and right are frequently visited. Par is a good score here. No huge punishment for coming up a club short, but don't want to be too long as there are bushes / OOB 10 yards over the back.
Hole 4 - Par 4
90 degree dogleg left but very short. Water all down the left and side and you will be more than likely hitting over trees for the second. The fairway runs out at about 200 yards and so a straight shot of about 190 leaves you in perfect position. Second shot can be anything from 80-140 yards depending on how far left/right you are off the tee. Warning - there's no great benefit of cutting the corner slightly (unless you do it by 20 yards) as you'll be blocked out by tall thick trees for the second shot.
Hole 5 - Par 3
LONG LONG LONG Par 3. 224 from the back tees, about 200 from the lower level. OOB all down the left and about a 170 carry from the back's if you're going straight at it. Fear not though, you can bail out to the right, chip on and two putt for a more than respectable 4. Super fast green which mainly slopes from right to left, but is stroke index 5 (should be lower) and so most will drop a shot or two here.
Hole 6 - Par 4
Another long hole (don't worry, they stop soon!). If you can reach the bunkers from the tee, you can reach the green in two. If you're miles short of them, don't even think about it. Lay up to 70-100 and hit in over the water which runs across about 50 yards short of the green. Stroke 1, and fully deserving of it. In the summer I've hit as little as a wedge in here, but hit Driver/3 Wood at the weekend and was 10 yards short of the green. Tough hole.
Hole 7 - Par 5
Now the fun can start ... Reachable par 5 depending on wind and firmness of fairways. Great driving hole. This has been one of the wettest over the winter as the drainage programme isn't planned until next year on this hole so if it's wet all week, don't expect too much run out. A driver, 5 iron will leave most with about 120 in. There is a small ditch about 50 yards short in the right rough, and another about 20 yards short in the left rough so important to try and keep it straight if possible.
Hole 8 - Par 5
Another reachable par 5, dependent on where the wind is coming from. A40 runs down the right and so there is absolutely nothing wrong with bailing out down the first (to the left), especially in medal play. Bunkers to catch longer hitters on the right of the fairway at about 270 but unless it's downwind drives will be short of here, will likely be two good hits and a little chip on. Slopiest green on the course and 3 putts are easily done if the flag's at the back over the ridge in the middle of the green.
Hole 9 - Par 3
Nice little short par 3 with a small but very quick green. Bunkers left and right but only about 150 yards so most should be able to take dead aim. If you're going to miss, miss left. Trying to get up and down from the right hand side can be neigh on impossible depending on the lie / pin position.
Hole 10 - Par 4
Nice little hole with water running down the left and then in front of the green. Driver not required on here. A hybrid/3 wood will leave about 100 in, most will hit 3/4 irons to find the fairway and hit in from 120-150. More room up by the green than it first looks from the fairway but OOB left and right if you're more than 20 yards either way from the middle of the green. Plays very different depending on whether the pin is right up the back or down the front. Club for it accordingly as you could end up with a MASSIVE putt if you get it wrong.
Hole 11 - Par 4
This hole is just about drivable at this time of year (easily done in the summer ). If you don't think you can carry it there, hit something like a hybrid - 5 iron to give you 80-100 yards in. Bunkers all down the right hand side and OOB if you go even remotely right off the tee. There's also a big pot hole just left of the green filled with thick rough. Don't go in here, you'll struggle to get out!
Personally, I'm trying to get myself to hit 5 iron / Gap Wedge here more often to stop me blowing up scores on this hole by hitting it OOB.
Hole 12 - Par 5
Another relatively straight forward par 5 with a bit more going on than its predecessors. Bunkers left at about 240 & 260 but loads of room to the right. If you go too far right you'll be hitting over a pond with some tall trees but even in the worst case scenario, hit an iron over the top and chip on from 80 yards or so. Bunkers around the green but most shouldn't be dropping too many shots here.
Hole 13 - Par 4
I hate this hole - I keep ballsing it up! Long par 4, dogleg left. Trees all down the left which stops you hitting a cut, and the pond from the previous hole is on the right hand side if you bail out the other way. If we're right off the back tees then the hole is actually slightly easier for most as you don't have to shape it right to left. Bunkers at about 260 down the left but not often visited. Second shot is over water and can be anything from 150-220 depending on your tee shot. At least 50% of a usual medal field will lay up here as there is once again the river in front of the green. Stroke 2 and so again, 5 is more than acceptable.
Hole 14 - Par 3
For me the weakest hole on the course in terms of design. Long again, and most have been hitting drivers here through the winter (and the summer). No shame in doing so. Hit it hard, find it, chip it on, putt.
Hole 15 - Par 4
Have driven this in the summer but at the moment a good drive is leaving about 80 yards. Relatively narrow fairway with OOB down the left. Bunkers at about 180 on the right of the fairway and 250 on the left so just take care with club selection if you do go with something other than driver. The flattest green on the course. There are a few subtle breaks but chances are, if it looks straight, it is.
Hole 16 - Par 4
Slight dogleg left but you can hit it both ways off the tee if you like. 3 big poplars make you think about your starting line but realistically you've got a 40 yard wide fairway to have a go at. Bunkers down the left at about 250 to catch out the longer hitters and if it's downwind, you could potentially sneak one over them, but I wouldn't advise it! Lots of thick rough all the way up the left and all around the green meaning that, once again, keeping it straight is imperative.
Hole 17 - Par 4
Another slight dogleg left. Hit anything from a driver down to a 5 iron off the tee. There's a small ridge at about 210-220, from the top level it's about 140. I have started hitting more drivers down here now I've straightened up a bit, but spent all of last year hitting 3 iron / 9 iron and was perfectly happy doing so.
Hole 18 - Par 3
Nice finishing hole. Between 150-190 depending on tees and flag location. Bunkers left and wide right. In all honesty, take an extra club and just play for the middle of the green, you'll never be too far away. I'll put out a special nearest the pin on here for you to play for too.
And that's it! Straight in the bar for a pint!
Long-ish hole to start off. Bunker on the left of the fairway at about 240-250 but plenty of room to the right. If it's dry, you'll be able to run shots in low as there is no trouble directly in front of the green. There are bunkers right and left of the green though and as with most on the course, the green itself is quick. 5 is more than acceptable.
Hole 2 - Par 4
There's slightly more room to the left than it first appears, but too far and there's also out of bounds. A lot of people will bail out right but this brings trees into play. Not the longest hole in the world so finding the fairway is more important than an extra few yards. Green slopes hugely from back to front and so be sure to take a club more / less from the indicated markers depending on its position.
Hole 3 - Par 3
There are two tee positions, if we are off the lower level it will play about 180-190 to the middle, the upper will be closer to 210. No shame in hitting woods up here. Big mound with thick rough which blocks a view of anything missing the green to the right. Bunkers left and right are frequently visited. Par is a good score here. No huge punishment for coming up a club short, but don't want to be too long as there are bushes / OOB 10 yards over the back.
Hole 4 - Par 4
90 degree dogleg left but very short. Water all down the left and side and you will be more than likely hitting over trees for the second. The fairway runs out at about 200 yards and so a straight shot of about 190 leaves you in perfect position. Second shot can be anything from 80-140 yards depending on how far left/right you are off the tee. Warning - there's no great benefit of cutting the corner slightly (unless you do it by 20 yards) as you'll be blocked out by tall thick trees for the second shot.
Hole 5 - Par 3
LONG LONG LONG Par 3. 224 from the back tees, about 200 from the lower level. OOB all down the left and about a 170 carry from the back's if you're going straight at it. Fear not though, you can bail out to the right, chip on and two putt for a more than respectable 4. Super fast green which mainly slopes from right to left, but is stroke index 5 (should be lower) and so most will drop a shot or two here.
Hole 6 - Par 4
Another long hole (don't worry, they stop soon!). If you can reach the bunkers from the tee, you can reach the green in two. If you're miles short of them, don't even think about it. Lay up to 70-100 and hit in over the water which runs across about 50 yards short of the green. Stroke 1, and fully deserving of it. In the summer I've hit as little as a wedge in here, but hit Driver/3 Wood at the weekend and was 10 yards short of the green. Tough hole.
Hole 7 - Par 5
Now the fun can start ... Reachable par 5 depending on wind and firmness of fairways. Great driving hole. This has been one of the wettest over the winter as the drainage programme isn't planned until next year on this hole so if it's wet all week, don't expect too much run out. A driver, 5 iron will leave most with about 120 in. There is a small ditch about 50 yards short in the right rough, and another about 20 yards short in the left rough so important to try and keep it straight if possible.
Hole 8 - Par 5
Another reachable par 5, dependent on where the wind is coming from. A40 runs down the right and so there is absolutely nothing wrong with bailing out down the first (to the left), especially in medal play. Bunkers to catch longer hitters on the right of the fairway at about 270 but unless it's downwind drives will be short of here, will likely be two good hits and a little chip on. Slopiest green on the course and 3 putts are easily done if the flag's at the back over the ridge in the middle of the green.
Hole 9 - Par 3
Nice little short par 3 with a small but very quick green. Bunkers left and right but only about 150 yards so most should be able to take dead aim. If you're going to miss, miss left. Trying to get up and down from the right hand side can be neigh on impossible depending on the lie / pin position.
Hole 10 - Par 4
Nice little hole with water running down the left and then in front of the green. Driver not required on here. A hybrid/3 wood will leave about 100 in, most will hit 3/4 irons to find the fairway and hit in from 120-150. More room up by the green than it first looks from the fairway but OOB left and right if you're more than 20 yards either way from the middle of the green. Plays very different depending on whether the pin is right up the back or down the front. Club for it accordingly as you could end up with a MASSIVE putt if you get it wrong.
Hole 11 - Par 4
This hole is just about drivable at this time of year (easily done in the summer
). If you don't think you can carry it there, hit something like a hybrid - 5 iron to give you 80-100 yards in. Bunkers all down the right hand side and OOB if you go even remotely right off the tee. There's also a big pot hole just left of the green filled with thick rough. Don't go in here, you'll struggle to get out!Personally, I'm trying to get myself to hit 5 iron / Gap Wedge here more often to stop me blowing up scores on this hole by hitting it OOB.
Hole 12 - Par 5
Another relatively straight forward par 5 with a bit more going on than its predecessors. Bunkers left at about 240 & 260 but loads of room to the right. If you go too far right you'll be hitting over a pond with some tall trees but even in the worst case scenario, hit an iron over the top and chip on from 80 yards or so. Bunkers around the green but most shouldn't be dropping too many shots here.
Hole 13 - Par 4
I hate this hole - I keep ballsing it up! Long par 4, dogleg left. Trees all down the left which stops you hitting a cut, and the pond from the previous hole is on the right hand side if you bail out the other way. If we're right off the back tees then the hole is actually slightly easier for most as you don't have to shape it right to left. Bunkers at about 260 down the left but not often visited. Second shot is over water and can be anything from 150-220 depending on your tee shot. At least 50% of a usual medal field will lay up here as there is once again the river in front of the green. Stroke 2 and so again, 5 is more than acceptable.
Hole 14 - Par 3
For me the weakest hole on the course in terms of design. Long again, and most have been hitting drivers here through the winter (and the summer). No shame in doing so. Hit it hard, find it, chip it on, putt.
Hole 15 - Par 4
Have driven this in the summer but at the moment a good drive is leaving about 80 yards. Relatively narrow fairway with OOB down the left. Bunkers at about 180 on the right of the fairway and 250 on the left so just take care with club selection if you do go with something other than driver. The flattest green on the course. There are a few subtle breaks but chances are, if it looks straight, it is.
Hole 16 - Par 4
Slight dogleg left but you can hit it both ways off the tee if you like. 3 big poplars make you think about your starting line but realistically you've got a 40 yard wide fairway to have a go at. Bunkers down the left at about 250 to catch out the longer hitters and if it's downwind, you could potentially sneak one over them, but I wouldn't advise it! Lots of thick rough all the way up the left and all around the green meaning that, once again, keeping it straight is imperative.
Hole 17 - Par 4
Another slight dogleg left. Hit anything from a driver down to a 5 iron off the tee. There's a small ridge at about 210-220, from the top level it's about 140. I have started hitting more drivers down here now I've straightened up a bit, but spent all of last year hitting 3 iron / 9 iron and was perfectly happy doing so.
Hole 18 - Par 3
Nice finishing hole. Between 150-190 depending on tees and flag location. Bunkers left and wide right. In all honesty, take an extra club and just play for the middle of the green, you'll never be too far away. I'll put out a special nearest the pin on here for you to play for too.
And that's it! Straight in the bar for a pint!
Last edited:
golfdub
Tour Rookie
Wow good write up there jimbob. Valuable information and that must of took you a long time to write up.
jimbob.someroo
Journeyman Pro
Cheers fella, just slightly amended as I'd apparently forgot which way round my left and rights were a couple of times but feel free to print and bring along or whatever for the day!
golfdub
Tour Rookie
Iv played it once before as when I first took up the game I was a member at perivale and playing at ealing was like playing at augusta
TheJezster
Tour Rookie
Thats a great write up, cheers jimbob. Whats the post-code of the place too? Need to tap that into tom tom so i find the place!
jimbob.someroo
Journeyman Pro
jimbob.someroo
Journeyman Pro
OK - Final Reminder!
This Sunday - First tee of at 12.30, please try and get there for 12 at the latest so that we can get off on time.
The clocks go forward on Sunday so 12pm is Saturday's 11am - Please don't forget this!
The cost is £25 and includes a Longest Drive and Nearest the Pin which I've sorted out.
There is a 100 yard practice fairway if you're super keen, but more realistically there's a couple of nets and a decent putting green to give you a feel for how quick they are
Trolly's should be fine unless there's a monsoon between now and then, but AdiZero's are unfortunately not allowed.
If you want food before or afterwards, let me know ASAP as the kitchen and dining room is going to be very busy with Mother's Day!
Any questions, let me know - and if you want to take my mobile number in case you're going to be late etc then DM me.
Final Groups:
Group 1
Jimbob.Someroo
RickG
BlueInMunich
Group 2
G1BB0
The Jezster
Sev112
Group 3
GolfDub
OxfordComma
Sawtooth
Group 4
Top Of The Flop
Swing - Thoughts
MattyBoy
Foxholer
This Sunday - First tee of at 12.30, please try and get there for 12 at the latest so that we can get off on time.
The clocks go forward on Sunday so 12pm is Saturday's 11am - Please don't forget this!
The cost is £25 and includes a Longest Drive and Nearest the Pin which I've sorted out.
There is a 100 yard practice fairway if you're super keen, but more realistically there's a couple of nets and a decent putting green to give you a feel for how quick they are
Trolly's should be fine unless there's a monsoon between now and then, but AdiZero's are unfortunately not allowed.
If you want food before or afterwards, let me know ASAP as the kitchen and dining room is going to be very busy with Mother's Day!
Any questions, let me know - and if you want to take my mobile number in case you're going to be late etc then DM me.
Final Groups:
Group 1
Jimbob.Someroo
RickG
BlueInMunich
Group 2
G1BB0
The Jezster
Sev112
Group 3
GolfDub
OxfordComma
Sawtooth
Group 4
Top Of The Flop
Swing - Thoughts
MattyBoy
Foxholer
Last edited:
Foxholer
Blackballed
Last edited:
TheJezster
Tour Rookie
Really looking forward to this now See you all tomorrow guys
See you all tomorrow guys
golfdub
Tour Rookie
Jimbob after visiting the range today I had problems with my car and cut a long story short The man from green flag said I need a new coil pack and can't get one until Monday so I won't be able to make it now as I'm coming from Kent.
I'm very gutted and very sorry for letting you down at the last minute.
I'm very gutted and very sorry for letting you down at the last minute.
jimbob.someroo
Journeyman Pro
Going to head down to the club shortly. Think we've got 12 now so we can discuss when we're down there if we wanna do three groups or four.
I'll be the one in and orange top and bright green bottoms!
See you soon!
I'll be the one in and orange top and bright green bottoms!
See you soon!
pokerjoke
Money List Winner
Good luck all
rickg
Money List Winner
Wow!! That was tight!! Not the course, the flight to Prague.... Just boarded at 19:26....flight was due to leave at 19:20.....I sprinted from security to the gate. Skin of the teeth.
Thanks to Jimbob today and BIM (Rich) for the company.
Great organising Jim!!!
Thanks to Jimbob today and BIM (Rich) for the company.
Great organising Jim!!!
rickg
Money List Winner
Well that was a waste of energy!! Planes gone tits up. Not due to depart now until 20:45!!!! And now they need more fuel!!!! Can't have used more than a thimbleful as the engines weren't even running.....Must have a gas guzzling APU!!
NST
Head Pro
How did the course play? We are going there in a couple of weeks time.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Thanks to jimbob for the organisation and both jimbob & rickg for their company & excellent play, sadly I didn't quite keep up the standard; still at least I confined my misdemeanours to the water hazards on the course (just!). Thanks also to all the forumers for their company in the bar afterwards. Always good to put faces to names. And a special mention to Sawtooth for his generosity over the long drive after I thought he was winding me up, thank you very much. :thup:
The course played very well; not a lot of run, but perfectly playable, quite tight and a good layout given the confined space making good use of the River Brent that runs through it, as I found to my cost. The greens were fantastic for the time of year, very true & very quick. I'd rather not think about how quick they'll be come summer.
The course played very well; not a lot of run, but perfectly playable, quite tight and a good layout given the confined space making good use of the River Brent that runs through it, as I found to my cost. The greens were fantastic for the time of year, very true & very quick. I'd rather not think about how quick they'll be come summer.
