Liverpool - It's not looking too bad in the transfer market

[JCW]

Sanchez decide to chose the City of London

How many CL has Wenger won seeing as you claim he is one of the best all round managers - answer = zero


Liverpool are not a top table club , not been for a long time , need a bigger stadium but know they dare not make the move as look what happen to Arsenal when they moved from highbury , no money to spent and they went from winning trophies every season to nothink for 9 years and what Wenger done in those years without the money to spent was a skill in itself , kept them up there , champions league every season and with a bit of luck could have won a trophy or 2 but now due to him they are in a strong position to push on once again and add to the FA Cup , sure Man City and Chelsea have money as long as the owners keep giving them money , but everythink comes to an end then what ............thats why i say he is one of very best all round managers of all time as its not just the football side , players diets , just ask the famous back 4 and there is the money side and bringing on young players .............i am keen to see him to well once again and i think he will .................EYG

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But Liverpool still lag behind United over the last 20 years. Arsenal won a PL unbeaten which for all the CL success is a feat never going to be repeated anytime soon. If you were speak to Wenger, he would say that Arsenal could win the CL anyway given the resources, Barca, Real and Madrid have to throw at it

Liverpool , Porto have both managed to win the CL without the resources of others that you mention - even further back other unfaniced teams have either won or got to the final

When it comes to success two clubs stand head and shoulders above the rest by a fair distance and one of those isn't Arsenal

Wenger has had a decent amount of success but wouldn't put him in the top ten of the best managers. The best managers don't go decade without winning honours

 

[Andy808]

Liverpool , Porto have both managed to win the CL without the resources of others that you mention - even further back other unfaniced teams have either won or got to the final

When it comes to success two clubs stand head and shoulders above the rest by a fair distance and one of those isn't Arsenal

Wenger has had a decent amount of success but wouldn't put him in the top ten of the best managers. The best managers don't go decade without winning honours

Give it up now Phil. They are goading you and you're falling for it mate.
LFC has a good manager who, with some time, could be great. The team is coming on nicely and this bunch of clowns are trying to wind you up mate.
It's time for a "whatever" and move on buddy.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Sanchez decide to chose the City of London

How many CL has Wenger won seeing as you claim he is one of the best all round managers - answer = zero


Liverpool are not a top table club , not been for a long time , need a bigger stadium but know they dare not make the move as look what happen to Arsenal when they moved from highbury , no money to spent and they went from winning trophies every season to nothink for 9 years and what Wenger done in those years without the money to spent was a skill in itself , kept them up there , champions league every season and with a bit of luck could have won a trophy or 2 but now due to him they are in a strong position to push on once again and add to the FA Cup , sure Man City and Chelsea have money as long as the owners keep giving them money , but everythink comes to an end then what ............thats why i say he is one of very best all round managers of all time as its not just the football side , players diets , just ask the famous back 4 and there is the money side and bringing on young players .............i am keen to see him to well once again and i think he will .................EYG

Will tackle each point separately

1. We don't need a new stadium when we can redevelop Anfield and will be doing to keep the same atmosphere - Arsenals stadium is lovely - shame the atmosphere is soulless and full of corporate - not to mention the most expensive in the county to watch

2. When you suggest Rodgers was rubbish and Wenger was better I mentioned the league places last season and your response was - trophies count ?! So Wenger went a decade winning nothing

3. You justify that he is the best all round because of "players diet" ?! Haven't you suffered more injuries than most teams and have had to bring in someone ?!

4. Top table side - does that mean top of the table or top 4 etc ?!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Liverpool , Porto have both managed to win the CL without the resources of others that you mention - even further back other unfaniced teams have either won or got to the final

When it comes to success two clubs stand head and shoulders above the rest by a fair distance and one of those isn't Arsenal

Wenger has had a decent amount of success but wouldn't put him in the top ten of the best managers. The best managers don't go decade without winning honours

Take the Liverpool glasses off. Are you not even going to acknowledge the Invincible achievement Wenger managed then.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Give it up now Phil. They are goading you and you're falling for it mate.
LFC has a good manager who, with some time, could be great. The team is coming on nicely and this bunch of clowns are trying to wind you up mate.
It's time for a "whatever" and move on buddy.

It's ok mate :thup:

Think Rodgers is doing a very good job - still got a lot of learning to do and certainly needs to improve in areas

Looking forward to the season :whoo:

 

[JCW]

Liverpool , Porto have both managed to win the CL without the resources of others that you mention - even further back other unfaniced teams have either won or got to the final

When it comes to success two clubs stand head and shoulders above the rest by a fair distance and one of those isn't Arsenal

Wenger has had a decent amount of success but wouldn't put him in the top ten of the best managers. The best managers don't go decade without winning honours

OK , You can play with stats all night long , lets just stick to stats since the PL started , Man U be top and Arsenal 2nd , take your pick from the rest , then there is the Head to head , lets count the period where owners where chucking the lot at thier clubs and the period before , still the same two clubs , twist that if you can , knowing you i am sure you can , this year will see the Gunners mount an even stronger title tilt , the other s will need to up the ante for sure ....................EYG

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Give it up now Phil. They are goading you and you're falling for it mate.

You call it goading but when boots on other foot it's a debate. :thup: To be honest I have little interest in either Arsenal or Liverpool either than being an armchair fan of football and just like to see good sides playing decent footie and so can be pragmatic about the merits or not of either side.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Take the Liverpool glasses off. Are you not even going to acknowledge the Invincible achievement Wenger managed then.

I actually wear contacts these days

And yes Wenger won a title without losing one game - was a good season and they won the title - how would you like me to "acknowledge" that

It was one of three with still no European titles and nothing for ten years - did well with an inherited team

So no he is nowhere near the best managers the game has seen - nowhere near.

 

[JCW]

Give it up now Phil. They are goading you and you're falling for it mate.
LFC has a good manager who, with some time, could be great. The team is coming on nicely and this bunch of clowns are trying to wind you up mate.
It's time for a "whatever" and move on buddy.

We not clowns , we stating fact and having a debate with no name calling , thats what a forum is .......................EYG

 

[Deleted member 15344]

OK , You can play with stats all night long , lets just stick to stats since the PL started , Man U be top and Arsenal 2nd , take your pick from the rest , then there is the Head to head , lets count the period where owners where chucking the lot at thier clubs and the period before , still the same two clubs , twist that if you can , knowing you i am sure you can , this year will see the Gunners mount an even stronger title tilt , the other s will need to up the ante for sure ....................EYG

Why stick with stats from just PL - didn't Arsenal or football exists before then ? Sorry but the records show you a great deal behind the top two

How many CL have you won - zero - Notts forest have two , Villa have won , only one London club has won one , Man UTD 3 , Liverpool 5

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Take the Liverpool glasses off. Are you not even going to acknowledge the Invincible achievement Wenger managed then.

It's ok mate :thup:

Think Rodgers is doing a very good job - still got a lot of learning to do and certainly needs to improve in areas

Looking forward to the season :whoo:

I actually wear contacts these days

And yes Wenger won a title without losing one game - was a good season and they won the title - how would you like me to "acknowledge" that

It was one of three with still no European titles and nothing for ten years - did well with an inherited team

So no he is nowhere near the best managers the game has seen - nowhere near.

Bit more than just winning a title though was it. Unbeaten all season. No one, not Fergie, Shankley, Revie, Clough or anyone has come close. Bit better than a good season and to be honest the CL isn't the be all. With all the resources others throw at it these days there will be the same names (perm 6 from 8 most seasons). Shame you can't even acknowledge such a significant achievement by Wenger

 

[JCW]

I actually wear contacts these days

And yes Wenger won a title without losing one game - was a good season and they won the title - how would you like me to "acknowledge" that

It was one of three with still no European titles and nothing for ten years - did well with an inherited team

So no he is nowhere near the best managers the game has seen - nowhere near.

Thats your view and and its your right but i think you are very wrong and thats my view ........................EYG

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Bit more than just winning a title though was it. Unbeaten all season. No one, not Fergie, Shankley, Revie, Clough or anyone has come close. Bit better than a good season and to be honest the CL isn't the be all. With all the resources others throw at it these days there will be the same names (perm 6 from 8 most seasons). Shame you can't even acknowledge such a significant achievement by Wenger

How exactly would you like me acknowledge it Homer

The records show he won one title that year - regardless of how wonderful an achievement you believe it to be for me it still doesn't put him amongst the best - zero European trophies , no trophies for a decade - sort of balances it out for me

Decent manager who has done well.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Thats your view and and its your right but i think you are very wrong and thats my view ........................EYG

Of course you think I'm wrong - but you haven't backed up why with anything substantial or factual

 

[JCW]

Why stick with stats from just PL - didn't Arsenal or football exists before then ? Sorry but the records show you a great deal behind the top two

How many CL have you won - zero - Notts forest have two , Villa have won , only one London club has won one , Man UTD 3 , Liverpool 5

we have won the fairs cup now Europa league and the cup winners cup , how many of them did liverpool win ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,................) zero , stats again ................no we stick with PL stats as those other times you could back pass to the goalie all nite long and he could pick it up so lets stick to PL stats as thats the modern game ......................EYG

 

[HomerJSimpson]

JCW I have to agree. No mention of a historic feat and all about the CL. I can't see how he can't be amongst the best with that season, two top two's four top threes and nothing worse than 4th

 

[Deleted member 15344]

we have won the fairs cup now Europa league and the cup winners cup , how many of them did liverpool win ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,................) zero , stats again ................no we still with PL stats as those other times you could back pass to the goalie all nite long and he could pick it up so lets stick to PL stats as thats the modern game ......................EYG

We won three UEFA Cups ( what was before the Europa )

Sorry but the stats don't start again when the Prem was started.

 

[JCW]

Of course you think I'm wrong - but you haven't backed up why with anything substantial or factual

I have but you choose to post around them , great managers do many things well not just win trophies , Moyes did a good job at Everton , never won anything but he did good with what he had ...........EYG

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Sorry Phil. You simply choose to ignore it wasn't just a title but footballing history

I would have thought most football fans irrespective of who they support would at least be able to respect the achievement and not just glibly write it off as a single title win and bounce it back to CL which isn't the topic. JCW and I are both debating PL performance and nothing to do with the CL at all. That said Chelsea have won the CL so are they a better side than Liverpool? More trophies at home and in Europe