Liverpool - It's not looking too bad in the transfer market

c1973 said:
I think Arsenal will get more from Ozil this year, he's a better player than he has shown them so far.
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He is just class , has a lazy style about him and has great vision , just moves with little effort and does not waste the ball much , if they get Sanchez and together with walcott , ox and Ramsey making runs look out , they take some stopping , when Ramsey and walcott got injured Arsenal`s form did dip a lot .............. a few more added and luck with injuries and they will do well this year , wenger is staying away from african players as the African cup of nations takes players away in jan hence him now buying more german .............................EYG
 
Liverpoolphil said:
i think he is your typical small skillful lightweight player - great when conditions suit him but will go missing when its a bit rough and tough in the prem.
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So is Sanchez, will be interesting to see how he handles an away match at Stoke. When is Wenger gong to turn his attention to what he actually needs, a strong powerful CM and a top quality CB. Not saying that he does not need Sanchez, as he will add a great dimension to their attack.
 
I still see Arsenal as being a lightweight side. Where's the real ball winner and the player going to make tackles and the hard yards like Scholes, Gerrard etc. They seem to struggle when their midfield gets bullied and I think Wenger needs someone a bit firmer in there
 
MadAdey said:
So is Sanchez, will be interesting to see how he handles an away match at Stoke. When is Wenger gong to turn his attention to what he actually needs, a strong powerful CM and a top quality CB. Not saying that he does not need Sanchez, as he will add a great dimension to their attack.
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He never will now - dont think he can see that his team was most successful with a Veria in the middle and an Adams at the back - it will be Arsenals achilles heal every season.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
i think he is your typical small skillful lightweight player - great when conditions suit him but will go missing when its a bit rough and tough in the prem.
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He has so much skill he just ride it , these are not days of Norman hunter and the rest where you can just kick people all day long and get away with it , if you did then Stoke would be top of the league , dirty hard teams dont win anymore , its pace that scares teams ...................EYG
 
MadAdey said:
Going on your assessment of Ozil, if he was sold he would be the worlds most expensive player. He is a good player but I did not see teams fighting each other for his signature when you signed him, so to that says you payed top dollar for him, or other teams would have tried to get him.
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Again if that's your opinion you are welcome to it, I stand by what I said he is my favorite player and I wouldn't want to sell him at any price.
Liverpoolphil
To say he can't do it when it gets a bit tough shows that your not able to form your own opinions and get them from anti Arsenal radio station talksport
 
Liverpoolphil said:
He never will now - dont think he can see that his team was most successful with a Veria in the middle and an Adams at the back - it will be Arsenals achilles heal every season.
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I will not knock Wenger for the beautiful football his teams play. The have undoubtably played the prettiest football n the PL for many years. But sometimes you need to dig in and get dirty, since his team of 9/10 years ago changed he has never had those type of players. Drop someone like Toure and Kompany into that team and they are true PL and CL contenders. Without that I just do not see it happening.
 
MadAdey said:
I will not knock Wenger for the beautiful football his teams play. The have undoubtably played the prettiest football n the PL for many years. But sometimes you need to dig in and get dirty, since his team of 9/10 years ago changed he has never had those type of players. Drop someone like Toure and Kompany into that team and they are true PL and CL contenders. Without that I just do not see it happening.
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That's my take too. Get a real midfield general in there and with the speed and flair around them and they will be contenders on many fronts. It needs someone to hold it all together.
 
freddielong said:
Again if that's your opinion you are welcome to it, I stand by what I said he is my favorite player and I wouldn't want to sell him at any price.
Liverpoolphil
To say he can't do it when it gets a bit tough shows that your not able to form your own opinions and get them from anti Arsenal radio station talksport
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Against us he spent the whole game in the pocket of Henderson and he was that poor he was subbed after 60 mins

He didnt look a £3mil player that day let alone a £30mil one
 
MadAdey said:
I will not knock Wenger for the beautiful football his teams play. The have undoubtably played the prettiest football n the PL for many years. But sometimes you need to dig in and get dirty, since his team of 9/10 years ago changed he has never had those type of players. Drop someone like Toure and Kompany into that team and they are true PL and CL contenders. Without that I just do not see it happening.
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I agree with this, I genuinely think wenger is a brilliant attacking coach, but his best team was with a defence he inherited.

Last year though tbf the defence improved massively and I think it was more of a lack of goals that cost. Unfortunately for all the youngsters he signs the squad numbers aren't there. He lost Walcott and Ramsey and that was game over.

This talk of Ozil being their best player is probably true though, if he has the team set up around him as it was at start of season he was terrifying defences, unfortunately as soon as he lost his protection (Ramsey) he couldn't perform.
 
I don't know that I'd agree that the defence was that great last year and certainly not a Bould, Adams, Winterburn, Dixon. If thy can strengthen the back four, add some bite to midfield and some depth to the defence and midfield they really will be a force. I fear that injuries will leave them paper thin again
 
HomerJSimpson said:
I don't know that I'd agree that the defence was that great last year and certainly not a Bould, Adams, Winterburn, Dixon. If thy can strengthen the back four, add some bite to midfield and some depth to the defence and midfield they really will be a force. I fear that injuries will leave them paper thin again
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I agree not a force in comparison to what you've mentioned above, just better than recent games. They need leadership, wherever it comes from to stop the capitulations against top clubs.
 
Papas1982 said:
I agree not a force in comparison to what you've mentioned above, just better than recent games. They need leadership, wherever it comes from to stop the capitulations against top clubs.
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Not sure there will ever be a back four to rival those. Arsenal did seem to concede soft goals against the top teams which is where you leader and solid midfielder comes in
 
Papas1982 said:
I agree with this, I genuinely think wenger is a brilliant attacking coach, but his best team was with a defence he inherited. .
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Yes but Wenger's "invincible" team wasn't too shabby either and he pretty much constructed that defence. Lehmann, Campbell, Lauren, Toure, etc.

We did however have the physicality of Glberto, Edu, Parlour and of course Viera in the middle of the park which helped a bit:whistle:
 
sawtooth said:
Yes but Wenger's "invincible" team wasn't too shabby either and he pretty much constructed that defence. Lehmann, Campbell, Lauren, Toure, etc.

We did however have the physicality of Glberto, Edu, Parlour and of course Viera in the middle of the park which helped a bit:whistle:
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Credit to wenger, I'm not calling a bad manager by any shape. But that defence was extremely protected by that awesome midfield and the attacking skills of Henry and Tom Daley.
 
sawtooth said:
Yes but Wenger's "invincible" team wasn't too shabby either and he pretty much constructed that defence. Lehmann, Campbell, Lauren, Toure, etc.

We did however have the physicality of Glberto, Edu, Parlour and of course Viera in the middle of the park which helped a bit:whistle:
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Again another quality team with the right mix of steel and the grace of Henry and Pires - why doesnt he look at that successful blueprint
 
Let's see what signings Wenger makes,they already have quality players in Ozil,Walcott,Ramsey..... They're main problem always seems to be long term injuries.
Wenger will be under pressure as he is every season,but so will Jose after a disappointing season & Rogers after a decent season & looks like spending a lot of cash.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Again another quality team with the right mix of steel and the grace of Henry and Pires - why doesnt he look at that successful blueprint
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But will he ever change it? People have been saying for years that Wenger needs some strength in the middle, all the great premier league teams have had a great blend of attacking flair and defensive strength.

bergkamp & Henry - Viera & Keown
Scholes, Giggs & Beckham - Keane & Stam
Cantona & Giggs - Keane & Pallister
Drogba & Robben - Terry & Makelele
Silva & Aguero - Toure & Kompany

compare them to the current Arsenal team..........
 
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