Taz
Journeyman Pro
Is there an easy was to.check if your lie angles are correct if you don't have tape and a board ?
Lie angles
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Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Draw a thick line on a ball with a marker pen, place ball with the line vertically and facing the club face
Make a stroke and see where the mark is
If it's straight then the lie angle is ok
Off the top of my head I can't remember whether it's too upright or too flat if the line points towards toe or heel.
Make a stroke and see where the mark is
If it's straight then the lie angle is ok
Off the top of my head I can't remember whether it's too upright or too flat if the line points towards toe or heel.
bobmac
Major Champion
Take your normal stance on a hard surface.
Then get someone to slide a 2p piece under the toe and slide it towards the heal (towards you)
If the lie is correct, the coin should stop about half way across the head.
That's roughly how to do a static fit.
Then get someone to slide a 2p piece under the toe and slide it towards the heal (towards you)
If the lie is correct, the coin should stop about half way across the head.
That's roughly how to do a static fit.
hovis
Tour Winner
trouble is you can have a perfect static lie but impact is all that matters. the black marker on the ball is a good one but have you got the eye for a few degree's out? also if you do this on firm ground or a range matt it can deflect the club back to straight.
the only way to truly see what's happening with lie angle at impact is see a pro who uses technology like gc2/hmt.
the only way to truly see what's happening with lie angle at impact is see a pro who uses technology like gc2/hmt.
nickjdavis
Head Pro
hit balls off turf that has some give but isn't soft....look at the distribution of dirt on your club face....if its parallel to your grooves your lie angle is fine, if the dirt is lower at the toe than at the heel then your lie is too upright, i'll leave you to work out the third option.
If you find the lie angle is out but you are hitting the ball straight....don't worry about the lie angle!!!
If you find the lie angle is out but you are hitting the ball straight....don't worry about the lie angle!!!
Rather than leave it to chance, how hard would it be to take them to a pro. I am sure all of these suggestions will give to a rough starting point but if you're going down I'd rather know for sure
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
Does it really matter? Never bothered with any of this when I started playing, and my ability to play hasn't changed much, despite numerous custom fits, and various random buys over the net.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
The static lie is probably good enough.
How often on a golf course is your lie perfectly flat?
How often on a golf course is your lie perfectly flat?
hovis
Tour Winner
if the club head is already coming in 5 degree's toe down then imagine what will happen with a lie above your feet!!!
lie angle at impact is very important. if it's off, is it because of your technique or because of your equipment? better to rule one of them out.
my clubs are 1 inch longer and 3 degrees upright. I still attack the ball 4 degrees toe down (I'm working on it) that would be 7 degrees toe down with standard club. that would lead to constant thin/toe strikes that miss right
Foxholer
Blackballed
Which may be a reasonable starting point, but is actually fairly pointless - it's the 'dynamic' (lie at impact) fit that's important! And Lie Board and tape is the way to determine that.
bobmac
Major Champion
I'm well aware of that but I suggest you read the OP again
Foxholer
Blackballed
I had!
There's really no substitute for Lie Board and tape! So.....
No! At least not 'properly'!
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bobmac
Major Champion
Strange, I've been doing it for 15 years
Foxholer
Blackballed
Perhaps you'll get it right eventually!
cliveb
Head Pro
According to a master club builder I've dealt with, the technique using a line drawn on the ball works just fine. He told me he does it that way nowadays because the tour pros he builds clubs for hit his lie boards so hard they were destroying them!
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
A widely held belief in the industry is that lie boards lie more than they tell the truth.
Foxholer
Blackballed
If it's out, it'll do both - depending on which 'end' of the line! Top end nearer the toe will mean too upright, I believe.
Needs a particularly sensitive eye to notice, compared to a lie board, though.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
I refer the Honourable Gentleman to the reply above this one....
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
my first thoughts with what you are explaining about you swing problems is - are your shafts too tip soft?
hovis
Tour Winner
no. my hands are too high at impact
