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[NWJocko]

On the 7th hole, why didn't he want you to hit your perfect full 9 iron shot?
Why did he want you to keep using the 3/4 type shot?

I do this a lot.

More control, better strike, better chance of hitting it correct distance is my thinking. If you have a 140 yard shot, and 140 yard max distance club, any mistrike comes up a good bit short. Plus swinging harder gives you more scope to lose control, in my experience.

Under 150/140 yards it is very rare for me to hit a full out shot into a green.

Plus, being on the coast, it is easier to keep it lower.

Disclaimer: I'm not a pro so there may be other reasons for doing this!!

 

[Junior]

On the 7th hole, why didn't he want you to hit your perfect full 9 iron shot?
Why did he want you to keep using the 3/4 type shot?

The theory is that you are in more control by swinging more club a bit easier. The same reason that pros dont like hitting wedges full out. We just transferred this to 7i, 8i and 9i too. On a full shot the ball spins more and is more effected by any wind.

 

[Roops]

This is the approach I have started to take and it means loads more greens hit and shots close in to the flag. I have mental check that with any short iron the max swing length is 10-2. Any longer and I am taking the next club. Works for me

 

[garyinderry]

The theory is that you are in more control by swinging more club a bit easier. The same reason that pros dont like hitting wedges full out. We just transferred this to 7i, 8i and 9i too. On a full shot the ball spins more and is more effected by any wind.

This might work well when the greens are soft or to chase one up to a back pin. it won't work too well in the height of the summer with baked greens or front or middle pins where you want the ball to sit down quickly. You need to hit them harder to get some spin into there.

Time and a place for everything I suppose.

 

[jasondransfieldgolf]

This might work well when the greens are soft or to chase one up to a back pin. it won't work too well in the height of the summer with baked greens or front or middle pins where you want the ball to sit down quickly. You need to hit them harder to get some spin into there.

Time and a place for everything I suppose.

You are definitely right about time and a place, this time of year the shot can be a big advantage due to greens being soft. Come the height of the summer it can also be an advantage, the ideal shot to a standard hard baked green would be limited in sidespin and high in backspin (very basic breakdown I know). A full shot is going to likely increase the sidespin, which when hitting the hard green is going to send the ball further the way it is spinning. A 3/4 shot is going to limit both of these elements and so give greater control. Of course to a tight pin you may look at more speed to get the ball to stop quicker, however if you are hitting a 7,8 or 9 iron do you have the skill level to consistently hit the ball close for a good look at birdie and if the pin is tucked tight is a miss going to lead to a double or worse. Would 1 extra club controlled give you a better stroke average over lets say 10 shots/rounds compared to flat out. Having this shot in your game will definitely help lower your handicap. If an 8 handicapper hit the ball with their approach shots to 30ft every time would their handicap come down, I'm sure it would. There is a time and a place to be aggressive. The key to lowering handicaps is improving the bad shots and not improving the good shots.

 

[Junior]

This might work well when the greens are soft or to chase one up to a back pin. it won't work too well in the height of the summer with baked greens or front or middle pins where you want the ball to sit down quickly. You need to hit them harder to get some spin into there.

Time and a place for everything I suppose.

Yeah, your right mate. I can see me using the shot a lot more though, even in Summer as my strike has been so much better since i started it. Its a great shot to a back flag , or, if the front pin is guarded by a bunker and 10 ft past is better than 10 ft short.

The lesson was more than this though. This was just one of the key points. Too much to type out, but id defo reccommend one.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Good posts, really interesting, :thup:
Junior mate, happy for you to type the rest, almost like a free lesson.😃

 

[Junior]

Good posts, really interesting, :thup:
Junior mate, happy for you to type the rest, almost like a free lesson.😃

Haha, cheers paul. Yeah i better keep stum now, dont want to be doing Jason out of any more playing lessons

Was great tho. Watching him play is an added bonus too !

 

[davemc1]

I know I'm 10 shots behind you guys in hc, so yous may not have this problem. When I try the 3/4 shot, I reckon I can get away with it once or twice, then the swing gets sloppy/lazy and I end up with either a massive fat or even a shank. I find it much easier to commit to a full shot. Just something else to learn I suppose



Here's the jokey bit I try to put into posts....

Maybe be I just need to learn the 90% flush shot 😜

 

[Junior]

I know I'm 10 shots behind you guys in hc, so yous may not have this problem. When I try the 3/4 shot, I reckon I can get away with it once or twice, then the swing gets sloppy/lazy and I end up with either a massive fat or even a shank. I find it much easier to commit to a full shot. Just something else to learn I suppose



Here's the jokey bit I try to put into posts....

Maybe be I just need to learn the 90% flush shot 😜

Got to remember to keep turning Dave , make sure your chest is facing the target at the finish

 

[Fish]

Got to remember to keep turning Dave , make sure your chest is facing the target at the finish

This is the biggest oversight and fault when working on or trying to implement 3/4 shots into your game, it took me ages to learn to commit still to a follow through, if you don't your body and feet are totally out of position and basically get in the way of your swing coming back through on plane and your arms attempt to make the adjustment leading to fats, thins & all manner of miss hits.

Clubbing up and taking a shorter backswing allows me to control my swing more as I had a bad overswing at times but this has helped me enormously towards the end of this season and is something I'll be working on more over the winter.

 

[Junior]

This is the biggest oversight and fault when working on or trying to implement 3/4 shots into your game, it took me ages to learn to commit still to a follow through, if you don't your body and feet are totally out of position and basically get in the way of your swing coming back through on plane and your arms attempt to make the adjustment leading to fats, thins & all manner of miss hits.

Clubbing up and taking a shorter backswing allows me to control my swing more as I had a bad overswing at times but this has helped me enormously towards the end of this season and is something I'll be working on more over the winter.

Exactly right mate. I still struggle with it sometimes and hang it out right. Got to really commit to turning through the shot.

 

[Fish]

Depends how **** you are really/....

Hmm, decided to surface have you.....

 

[SammmeBee]

Hmm, decided to surface have you.....

:wave: