Leaves

[SteveJay]

Read over on The Sand Trap forum that USGA rules permit local rules being implemented making areas particularly affected by fallen leaves as GUR. Seems a sensible and equitable rule rather than penalise what was not necessarily that bad a shot but the ball can't be found due to leaves.

My course is heavily affected at the moment and its so frustrating to lose a ball when just off the fairway. Is this GUR option available over this side of the pond and if so do any of your clubs use?

 

[pokerjoke]

Golf around courses with trees are a nightmare as I used to play on one,its especially frustrating when lost on a fairway.

I suppose its best to not take it too seriously as I understand and it certainly was at the course I played as tough luck,and not once did they ever have it as gur.

Most of it would come down to [drop it about there,that will do].

 

[louise_a]

Funny but I was thinking something similar today, my ball was just of the fairway and there were so many leaves on the ground, I wondered if the greens staff had been clearing the fairways by blowing all the leaves into the rough, in that instance I luckily found my ball but a few holes later my FC put one into the leaves and we never found it.

 

[Deleted member 15717]

If you can't find your ball...how can you be SURE that it is under the leaves?

I play at a course where there are trees all over the place, and leaves around them....the trick is to not hit it into the rubbish

 

[SteveJay]

If you can't find your ball...how can you be SURE that it is under the leaves?

I play at a course where there are trees all over the place, and leaves around them....the trick is to not hit it into the rubbish

Can be pretty sure when you see it land on the fairway and roll slowly towards some trees and the leaves on the ground. Afraid I am not good enough to follow your last piece of advice on every shot!!

 

[Deleted member 15717]

Can be pretty sure when you see it land on the fairway and roll slowly towards some trees and the leaves on the ground. Afraid I am not good enough to follow your last piece of advice on every shot!!

How large is the pile of leaves?!

For me, it is just rub of the green, and if you can't find it, then it's a lost ball and back to the tee

 

[GeeJay]

I may be a bit confused/stupid here, but I don't understand how making areas of leaves GUR helps with a lost ball situation... Surely if the ball is lost, you still have to go back and replay the shot and take a penalty?

 

[Fyldewhite]

I may be a bit confused/stupid here, but I don't understand how making areas of leaves GUR helps with a lost ball situation... Surely if the ball is lost, you still have to go back and replay the shot and take a penalty?

You can't lose a ball in GUR.

I was playing once this time of year on a course I hadn't played before. Hit my 2nd on a par 5 over the brow of a hill only to walk on and find a depression or hollow about 50 yards across, exactly where my ball had gone, and literally a foot deep in fallen leaves. The wind must just collect them in the hollow. Absolutely no chance of finding it. Was only a friendly game so no bother but would have felt more than a little aggrieved in a comp. Just one of those things though, I really don't see how a GUR rule would work. How do you define where it's bad enough to warrant it? This could constantly change with the wind etc.

 

[Farmergeddon]

If a green keeper had been blowing or collecting leaves in the general area then the leaves could be deemed as being piled there for removal and be treated as gr.. It is a bit unfair to hit a ball straight up the middle of a fairway and lose it in leaves that should have been removed.. thats not rub of the green..

 

[need_my_wedge]

Was playing on a windy day this time last year. Hit the ball straight up the middle, into a pile of leaves a foot deep that were blowing around in a swirl covering a diameter at least 10m across. Fortunately did find it eventually, but it was cheesing me off no end beforehand, knowing that I'd hit a good drive into a "safe" position and was looking like a lost ball......