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[pokerjoke]

Re chasing the perfect swing (I haven't heard the interview btw but gather that's what he's saying) then absolutely agree.

The lowest handicapper at our club certainly doesn't have the best swing, but he hits an awful lot of balls so he makes the same swing everytime.

I think that's exactly what he is saying - he mentions the other three guys have great swings pretty much near to perfect but then says that others have also gone to win things with nowhere near perfect swings but get the score on the board - Furyk prob a perfect example as it Speith , neither picture perfect

The whole interview sounds like its about the best way to get kids on the golf course,he mentions that he and others learnt how to play golf on links courses not parkland and not on the range either.

How can kids learn on the golf course without having some sort of basic play from a range.

I have never seen a group of 20 kids practicing on a golf course where I have seen 20 up a range organised and payed for by the school,golf courses just wouldn't allow it.

 

[richart]

I enjoy playing golf, but I also enjoy the challenge of trying to improve my excuse for a swing.

If you are trying to improve your swing, are you not by definition always changing it ? Would it not be better to stick with one swing, and groove it ? Alternatively if you want to change, have a lesson and stick with the swing you are taught. Repeating a swing seems to be what the Pro's are so good at. I have usually about 20 different swings a round, and none of them are much good.

 

[pokerjoke]

I think that's exactly what he is saying - he mentions the other three guys have great swings pretty much near to perfect but then says that others have also gone to win things with nowhere near perfect swings but get the score on the board - Furyk prob a perfect example as it Speith , neither picture perfect

He does not once mention "chasing" the perfect swing he actually says "they swing the club perfectly which is completely different.

 

[richart]

The whole interview sounds like its about the best way to get kids on the golf course,he mentions that he and others learnt how to play golf on links courses not parkland and not on the range either.

How can kids learn on the golf course without having some sort of basic play from a range.

I have never seen a group of 20 kids practicing on a golf course where I have seen 20 up a range organised and payed for by the school,golf courses just wouldn't allow it.

When I started at 14, I was booked in for six lesons with the pro. First three were on the practice ground, and the last three were on the course. Only when I got on the course did I realise what a great game golf was. Probably why I can't stand practicing, as for me it was just a means to play the course. Can still remember the first time I palyed the course, and the thrill of hitting four scuttling woods on to a par four, and getting down for a six. :whoo:

Not a lot has changed except with my putting now it would be a seven.

 

[Crow]

If you are trying to improve your swing, are you not by definition always changing it ? Would it not be better to stick with one swing, and groove it ? Alternatively if you want to change, have a lesson and stick with the swing you are taught. Repeating a swing seems to be what the Pro's are so good at. I have usually about 20 different swings a round, and none of them are much good.

Like yours, my swing changes of its own accord and there's not a lot I can do about it.

I can see the argument for trying to get really consistent with the swing you have but to my simple mind, if I can develop a more classical swing then my ball striking "should" be better.

I've had lessons and then tried to make the result my stock swing but, as mentioned above, over time my swing will revert to some previous incarnation, usually with additional faults brought in from the latest lesson, so I'll need to have another lesson to find out where I'm going awry (usually some variation on the same theme).

Would I have been a better player if I'd never had a lesson and just stuck with my self-taught swing from when I started playing? Who knows for sure but I doubt it.

Every once in a while I'll hit a shot that feels as sweet as possible and the swing that made it will feel good too, Nirvana!

It can be a vicious circle but it's all part of the fun and frustration of golf.

 

[Robobum]

Sorry about the link source.

Even as a kid he spent hours on the practice green

http://www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/tips-and-tuition/tuition-features/shane-lowry-can-fix-your-short-game/

 

[Crow]

When I started at 14, I was booked in for six lesons with the pro. First three were on the practice ground, and the last three were on the course. Only when I got on the course did I realise what a great game golf was. Probably why I can't stand practicing, as for me it was just a means to play the course. Can still remember the first time I palyed the course, and the thrill of hitting four scuttling woods on to a par four, and getting down for a six. :whoo:

Not a lot has changed except with my putting now it would be a seven.

Maybe that's why we have different viewpoints.

I started at a budget 9 hole course, hiring half a dozen clubs that were carried round in a section of firehose with the bottom sewn up.
Yes it was fun initially but the scoring was dire and it soon became clear that I hadn't a clue what I was doing and I wasn't improving so booked onto batch of cheap group lessons and learnt about the grip, stance, ball position, etc, etc.

I think the real downfall began when I started reading books and trying to self diagnose. Youtube takes this to a whole new level and I try to stay well clear of that.....

 

[pokerjoke]

When I started at 14, I was booked in for six lesons with the pro. First three were on the practice ground, and the last three were on the course. Only when I got on the course did I realise what a great game golf was. Probably why I can't stand practicing, as for me it was just a means to play the course. Can still remember the first time I palyed the course, and the thrill of hitting four scuttling woods on to a par four, and getting down for a six. :whoo:

Not a lot has changed except with my putting now it would be a seven.

Too expensive to do it that way now Rich.

 

[Dasit]

Am I the only sicko who enjoys practicing as much as I do playing

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Am I the only sicko who enjoys practicing as much as I do playing

The thread isn't about practise - Lowry wasn't saying don't practise , it has nothing to do with practise.

Why are people going on about practise or not

 

[Rlburnside]

I'm sure he means the best way to learn to play is on the course, which is true as it's so different to hitting balls on perfect lies on a range.

But I'm also sure he would advocate you need to practice to improve, I think I could reduce my h/c by 3/4 shoots if I put enough practice in but to do that would bore me and it's not what I play the game for.

I also think some on the forum would benefit more by going out playing and practicing less.

 

[Deleted member 3432]

Am I the only sicko who enjoys practicing as much as I do playing

Some boat as you I'm afraid.

Maybe because I don't get much chance to play but at the same time nothing worse than playing a couple of holes or god forbid playing on your own. I would rather shoot myself!

Apologies to those who enjoy solo golf, I just don't.

 

[richart]

Maybe that's why we have different viewpoints.

I started at a budget 9 hole course, hiring half a dozen clubs that were carried round in a section of firehose with the bottom sewn up.
Yes it was fun initially but the scoring was dire and it soon became clear that I hadn't a clue what I was doing and I wasn't improving so booked onto batch of cheap group lessons and learnt about the grip, stance, ball position, etc, etc.

I think the real downfall began when I started reading books and trying to self diagnose. Youtube takes this to a whole new level and I try to stay well clear of that.....

I do think anyone starting from the game from scratch should get lessons, as a lot of the golf swing is not natural, especially the grip. I personally think it is very difficult to correct your own faults. I had a lesson a while back, and when I saw the video of my swing it was obvious I was thrusting my hips towards the ball. Hence loads of steep swings and quite a few shanks. Haven't cured it fully, but at least I know what to work on during the round (obviously not on the practice ground !)

 

[3565]

Post 14 had me on the floor :rofl:
point scoring exercise, usual suspects, well Keyser Souze says try taking a page out of your own preaching book, accept that others didn't agree with you and all your doing is justifying your comments on the other post from someone who's probably hit more balls in a week then hot dinners you've shoved down your mouth!

So who is actually point scoring here!! It soooo transparent and Pokerjoke is right ..... Apart from putting bright........

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Post 14 had me on the floor :rofl:
point scoring exercise, usual suspects, well Keyser Souze says try taking a page out of your own preaching book, accept that others didn't agree with you and all your doing is justifying your comments on the other post from someone who's probably hit more balls in a week then hot dinners you've shoved down your mouth!

So who is actually point scoring here!! It soooo transparent and Pokerjoke is right ..... Apart from putting bright........

The thread had nothing to do with the other thread until posters like you started to attempt to connect the two for a stirring exercise

And less of the cheap digs and sly insults please.

 

[Deleted member 15717]

Jeez...Lowry just says learn to play golf on a course. Learn the lessons that only a course can bring, course management, pressure putting, shooting a low round. You learn a lot more from actually playing golf.

I agree with Lowry's comments. Get out and play, in different weathers, with different people, and just learn how to get the ball from A to B in as few strokes as possible, dealing with the crap and the good that playing on a course brings

 

[Pin-seeker]

Post 14 had me on the floor :rofl:
point scoring exercise, usual suspects, well Keyser Souze says try taking a page out of your own preaching book, accept that others didn't agree with you and all your doing is justifying your comments on the other post from someone who's probably hit more balls in a week then hot dinners you've shoved down your mouth!

So who is actually point scoring here!! It soooo transparent and Pokerjoke is right ..... Apart from putting bright........

Take a bow for this one son.
And no Phil it's not because it's aimed at you, before you play that card AGAIN.

 

[Harrycarry]

Is there a perfect swing? There are certain basic fundamentals which most of us must get right, if we are to play to a decent standard. That said, is the human body capable of repeating the perfect swing. What is it anyway. Every top pro /coach brings out a book of their swing.
Me thinks there no such thing. Just various ways to skin a cat as the saying goes.
Enjoy your golf.

 

[Harrycarry]

You may be a mere. I can assure you I am not.

 

[3565]

There was nothing sly about it as my post was and is as transparent as this thread!
Trying to justify your theories and that we should all agree with you!

As as for the cheap digs, again son take a page from your preaching manual as your just as good at dishing it out to others.

Quote. - if your aren't getting better it's not because of the facilities it's because of the person holding the club...........