Just how good is Scheffler?

[Imurg]

A stat I heard on Precision Golf's Live YouTube last night was....the exact numbers may be slightly different but you'll get the gist.

Scheffler's win rate from a 36 hole lead is about 40%
Jack's was about 60%
Tiger's was 86%.

So he's good but he's got to keep it going a few more years yet.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

A stat I heard on Precision Golf's Live YouTube last night was....the exact numbers may be slightly different but you'll get the gist.

Scheffler's win rate from a 36 hole lead is about 40%
Jack's was about 60%
Tiger's was 86%.

So he's good but he's got to keep it going a few more years yet.

Stats can be twisted though. It's about wins overall. Tiger was a monster from ahead, players often looked psychologically beaten if he was in the lead. Maybe Scheffler chases better than Tiger, what are the stats there? What matters is after 72 holes, nothing else.

 

[irip]

Woods was winning pretty much from the moment his career started where as it has taken Scottie a few years to get where he is.

Woods also had an aura about him that I have not seen with any other player.
He had beaten most before a ball had been struck.

Monty was also dominant in Europe for a number of years and if you listen to the players that played on the tour they say that as soon as you saw his name they knew they were playing for second place.

 

[evemccc]

I think there is far, far more strength in depth now than ever — way more so than the late 90s ans early 00s and certainly more than 15 years ago when Luke Donald, Westwood and Kaymer were vying for No. 1 status (which is pretty much when Rory started to dominate..)

 

[Voyager EMH]

This year, Scheffler could achieve something very similar to Nicklaus - A career grand slam in his first five years of major-winning. (Tiger did it 4 years and his age was 21 to 24)
And it would not be surprising if Scheffler wins at least 2 majors this year to equal Jack's tally.



Age-wise he is 3.5 years older than Jack on these tables and Jack continued to dominate through the 1970s.
Jack won his last major at 46 and his last top 10 at 58. That is a tough act to follow when you start 3.5 years later in age.
How Scheffler will compare with Jack and Tiger will eventually depend more on how he is playing in ten years time than right now when he is top dog for sure.

 

[kp17]

Might be wrong here but I think that win takes him past Mcilroy in PGA tour earnings and only 20 something million behind tiger that he’ll no doubt overtake this year.

Mental to think.

 

[Jason.H]

Might be wrong here but I think that win takes him past Mcilroy in PGA tour earnings and only 20 something million behind tiger that he’ll no doubt overtake this year.

Mental to think.

And the PGA prize money rose drastically on the back of LIV golf.

 

[sunshine]

It's a marathon not a sprint. Scottie has been at the top table for 4 years. We'll be able to judge in another 4 years if he's on track to join Tiger and Jack.

 

[kp17]

And the PGA prize money rose drastically on the back of LIV golf.

Yeah making that point too, mad stat especially to overtake woods soon

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

He’s clearly exceptional, he always practices the basics and is unbelievably consistent. His scoring average is what wins him so many titles, no real average robins with a massive low one thrown in. So he is doing pretty much everything right all of the time.

I don’t think he will surpass Tiger or Jack for total wins. He will overtake on the money list but that’s not as relevant as it used to be with the advent of FedEx cup, and signature events the prize money is a joke.

But as I said clearly exceptional way ahead of anyone else on the planet. But I do find him and him winning so often a bit dull.

 

[Hoganman1]

He is unquestionably the best right now. His game is almost boring to watch because he hardly ever puts himself in situations requiring miraculous shots. When he does miss a green he holes out just about as often as he gets up and down. A year or so ago his putting was suspect. That is no longer an issue. Frankly, I'm surprised he hasn't already completed the career slam. I'll even go further and say it's possible he gets all four majors in a calendar year. Suffering an injury is the only thing that might get in his way to being the GOAT.

 

[The Squirrel]

The bookies make Scheffler a very strong favourite for The Masters.
Rory is second favourite by a noticeable margin from third.

As well as number of majors won and longevity, I have another interesting statistic regarding consistency.

Number of consecutive Majors without missing a cut.
I think Jack and Tiger both made a streak of 39. Scheffler currently 14.
Four years to beat them. I think it does look quite likely at the moment. But if he misses one and we start counting again, I think the chance has gone.

Didn't Tiger only break his streak when playing shortly after his Dad died having not played a proper round for weeks?
Fairly sure he went back to winning or coming damn close every major for at least 2-3 more years after that, so would have smashed the record if he'd done the sensible thing and just sat out that one. Can see why you wouldn't though - at that point Tiger had laid waste to pro golf and was so heavily sponsored that actual prize money was probably a rounding error, so really only had 4 meaningful tournaments per year in terms of improving his place in history - would obviously be reluctant to miss one.

 

[The Squirrel]

Woods was winning pretty much from the moment his career started where as it has taken Scottie a few years to get where he is.

Woods also had an aura about him that I have not seen with any other player.
He had beaten most before a ball had been struck.

Monty was also dominant in Europe for a number of years and if you listen to the players that played on the tour they say that as soon as you saw his name they knew they were playing for second place.

Scotty might be getting that way.
It's easy to forget he was actually trailing going into the final round on Sunday.
It just FELT so inevitable that he would win that even a shot back FELT like a 3 shot lead.

 

[Voyager EMH]

Didn't Tiger only break his streak when playing shortly after his Dad died having not played a proper round for weeks?
Fairly sure he went back to winning or coming damn close every major for at least 2-3 more years after that, so would have smashed the record if he'd done the sensible thing and just sat out that one. Can see why you wouldn't though - at that point Tiger had laid waste to pro golf and was so heavily sponsored that actual prize money was probably a rounding error, so really only had 4 meaningful tournaments per year in terms of improving his place in history - would obviously be reluctant to miss one.

Tiger's run of no missed cuts in 39 majors starts when he was an amateur. He won 10 in that run.
And yes, first major after his dad died he missed the cut. After that he had another run of 10 with no missed cuts with 4 wins.
He won one more major after that.

Jack missed the cut in the 1967 Masters. He had already won 6 majors at that point and it ended a run of 14 with no missed cuts.
He immediately followed that with a win in the 1967 US Open which started his run of 39 majors with no missed cuts and 9 wins in that run.
His missed cut was 1978 PGA.
After that, he won 3 more majors.

 

[ExRabbit]

The bookies make Scheffler a very strong favourite for The Masters.
Rory is second favourite by a noticeable margin from third.

As well as number of majors won and longevity, I have another interesting statistic regarding consistency.

Number of consecutive Majors without missing a cut.
I think Jack and Tiger both made a streak of 39. Scheffler currently 14.
Four years to beat them. I think it does look quite likely at the moment. But if he misses one and we start counting again, I think the chance has gone.

That doesn't seem to add up - he will have to be on 24 currently to beat them in 4 years. Maybe he is?