Junior Punishment - Am I wrong here ?

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I have just come back from the club and I am honestly fuming.

Heres the story

Last Thursday after my society round I sat in my usual space and noticed amongst others my sons name (11) etched into it. Got home that night and he admitted to me he had done it, so I grounded him. Xbox gone, no TV, not allowed out with his friends and as the Friday was last day of term, the children in his school can wear what they want. I made him go in his uniform as part of the punishment. I also made it clear we would be going up to the club and he would admit to what he had done to the manager or captain.

Now I am not happy with what he has done, I have not raised him to go around damaging other peoples property and to not have respect for other peoples belongings. He has been raised to have respect for others. I know he has done wrong, however I am also proud of the fact he straight up admitted to what he had done, no lies, he didnt even try to get out of it he flat out admitted to it.

Friday, Saturday, Sunday the course is closed and there is no answer in the office throughout the entire weekend. So on Monday I took him up to the course where he received a rollicking off the Manager. Now at this point the manager also pointed out 3 other tables which had damage of them including one with 12 or so severe gouge marks from where a committee member had banged a little trophy into the table calling for order during one of the societies. I was told that the committee was meeting on Wednesday evening and the damage was going to be on the list of things discussed which is fair enough. I also notified the manager of the punishments he had received and offered to either pay for a french polisher or to replace the table if needed.

However I decided to nip up the club 20 minutes earlier than normal to find out what had been said. As I walked into the lounge area the Manager came up to me smiling and said "slap on the wrist, a two week ban" So I asked about the other members who had caused damage and what their punishments were. According to the manager only my son was punished because he is the only member who admitted to causing damage.

I am honestly disgusted, in a game where honesty and integrity are supposed to be cornerstones he has been punished for telling the truth whereas other have gotten away with it through deceit and lies.

I expected him to be punished by the club, I am not happy as I dont believe the kid should be punished twice but I understood the need to do something. But banning him and allowing others to play is downright wrong in my opinion.

For me it tells the whole sad story when I walked into the house and told my son who then replied " I should have lied".

Our subs are due on Monday and I have already told the manager I wont be rejoining as this has left a bitter taste in my mouth.
 
I feel your pain, as long as you know you have done the right thing and your son has learnt a lessoj, hopefully he won't turn to lieing about he will just not do it !!!

As for the joining up, don't cut your nose off to spite your face....... you have made your views clear to the club captain and management and i am sure to a few members too........
 
I respect your approach to this after your son admitted his part in damaging the table. A two week ban from the club isn't too strong a punishment really.

As for the lack of punishment for the other items damaged, if no-one has come forward then it's hard to appoint blame on hearsay and 3rd party versions of what went on. I'm not saying that the club are right in this, but they can't prove who did it... or can they ?

I think you are over reacting a little by saying you'll not be back though. You and your son have done what was necessary. The club either delve deeper into this or they have to let it lye as it is.
 
If they've scratched their names into the table and your son has said that it was them that caused the damage then I don't think that you'd need the others to admit their guilt?
 
I fully respect you and your son, your good people.

I think I would request that the club drop the suspension and you pay for the damage, but actually I think you are where you are and it has played out as I would have expected.
 
Perhaps you need to reward your son for coming clean. Buy him a new x-box game or something when he get's it back and have a nice long chat about what he did was wrong (which he obviously knows) but coming clean was the right and moral thing to do and for that you are rewarding him with a small token.
 
Perhaps you need to reward your son for coming clean. Buy him a new x-box game or something when he get's it back and have a nice long chat about what he did was wrong (which he obviously knows) but coming clean was the right and moral thing to do and for that you are rewarding him with a small token.

I agree with this ^^^^^^

I just wish that the Mrs would reward my honesty in a similar fashion...instead when I come clean and say "yes darling, I agree you have put a lot of weight on lately" she doesnt seem to appreciate my honesty!
 
I agree with this ^^^^^^

I just wish that the Mrs would reward my honesty in a similar fashion...instead when I come clean and say "yes darling, I agree you have put a lot of weight on lately" she doesnt seem to appreciate my honesty!

Agree with that, my wife asked me if a dress made her backside look big and I told her that it was more likely the lifetime of burgers and chocolate that did that and not the dress. Did I get reward for my honesty or did I end up in the doghouse? Doghouse every time.
 
I have just come back from the club and I am honestly fuming.

Heres the story

Last Thursday after my society round I sat in my usual space and noticed amongst others my sons name (11) etched into it. Got home that night and he admitted to me he had done it, so I grounded him. Xbox gone, no TV, not allowed out with his friends and as the Friday was last day of term, the children in his school can wear what they want. I made him go in his uniform as part of the punishment. I also made it clear we would be going up to the club and he would admit to what he had done to the manager or captain.

Now I am not happy with what he has done, I have not raised him to go around damaging other peoples property and to not have respect for other peoples belongings. He has been raised to have respect for others. I know he has done wrong, however I am also proud of the fact he straight up admitted to what he had done, no lies, he didnt even try to get out of it he flat out admitted to it.

Friday, Saturday, Sunday the course is closed and there is no answer in the office throughout the entire weekend. So on Monday I took him up to the course where he received a rollicking off the Manager. Now at this point the manager also pointed out 3 other tables which had damage of them including one with 12 or so severe gouge marks from where a committee member had banged a little trophy into the table calling for order during one of the societies. I was told that the committee was meeting on Wednesday evening and the damage was going to be on the list of things discussed which is fair enough. I also notified the manager of the punishments he had received and offered to either pay for a french polisher or to replace the table if needed.

However I decided to nip up the club 20 minutes earlier than normal to find out what had been said. As I walked into the lounge area the Manager came up to me smiling and said "slap on the wrist, a two week ban" So I asked about the other members who had caused damage and what their punishments were. According to the manager only my son was punished because he is the only member who admitted to causing damage.

I am honestly disgusted, in a game where honesty and integrity are supposed to be cornerstones he has been punished for telling the truth whereas other have gotten away with it through deceit and lies.

I expected him to be punished by the club, I am not happy as I dont believe the kid should be punished twice but I understood the need to do something. But banning him and allowing others to play is downright wrong in my opinion.

For me it tells the whole sad story when I walked into the house and told my son who then replied " I should have lied".

Our subs are due on Monday and I have already told the manager I wont be rejoining as this has left a bitter taste in my mouth.

dry your eyes and have a rethink, you son willfully caused damage and admitted it. the other damage was an accident from what ive read. well done on the your punishment i do think making him wear his uniform was a bit much. im pretty sure your son has learned a lesson. but not going to rejoin is a step too far. imo
 
I admire your sons honesty but he was the only one they could "throw the book at",yes others who caused the damage should have owned up but does that mean that your son should not have been punished by the club for what he did?.personally I think your son should take he's punishment from you and the club and maybe he will think twice before damaging somebodys property,if it was my son I would make him accept the lot............
 
I sat in my usual space and noticed amongst others my sons name (11) etched into it.

Eleven? Funny name for a kid ;)

He's been punished, lesson learned that he'll take with him into the future, the others won't have that lesson to learn and will hopefully get their comeuppance some other time.

.... but give him back his XBox..... he can't do anything else seeing as he's banned from the course!!! :D
 
Eleven? Funny name for a kid ;)

big family? :smirk:


Your son is to be commended for owning up, you've given just punishment and hopefully he has learned his lesson. Now give him something (a token) back to reward his honesty and bravery
 
In think that you should be congratulated for dealing with your son in the way that you did, but, and there is always a but, you were taking that action personally for disciplinary reasons to teach him a lesson for bringing disrepute to the family. The golf club are, in my view, bound to take their own action to show the seriousness of what he did and to show the members that it has resulted in a sanction and a short ban, in addition to your penalty would be pretty fair I would say.
 
big family? :smirk:


Your son is to be commended for owning up, you've given just punishment and hopefully he has learned his lesson. Now give him something (a token) back to reward his honesty and bravery
This is whats wrong with the world nowdays,hows the lad going to learn from a mistake if part of it is getting a "reward" :rolleyes:
 
It seems unfair but unless there is clear evidence or an admission from other "scratchers", the Club can't really do anything.

You might not like the boy being punished twice - by you and by the club- but you do have the choice to "suspend" his punishment from you by returning his Xbox for example. I wouldn't buy him a treat for coming clean as that sends out a mixed message.

Not re-joining? That punishes no one but yourself- can't imagine the Club will be bothered to lose one member, albeit a very honest one.

Edit- if you know who else is responsible for damage, tell the club
 
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First off, yes he's old enough to know right from wrong but he is only 11, I'm still doing stupid things and regretting them after at 34. He did wrong, he admitted it, take the punishment and move on, I wouldn't reward him.

If this happened at my club I would look at you and your son and the ones who did the right thing and think more of ye for it, he's only 11 for goodness sake. I'll assume the other names in the table have been made known and I'd look unfavourably on any of those kids but more so their parents who didn't come forward.

No reason to leave the club, it'll all be forgotten by May.
 
This is whats wrong with the world nowdays,hows the lad going to learn from a mistake if part of it is getting a "reward" :rolleyes:

the 'reward' is for owning up- sorry thought that was clear, or would you rather he was one of the 'others' that have lied and not stepped up to take responsibility for their own actions.

He's had plenty of other punishments including humiliation at school no doubt for wearing his Uniform on a dress down day, and publicly barred from the club for 2 weeks.

He will learn to lie if it's seen or felt to be overly unfair, he carved his name on a desk- bad, yes- but not major, and he is only 11.
 
Agree with that, my wife asked me if a dress made her backside look big and I told her that it was more likely the lifetime of burgers and chocolate that did that and not the dress. Did I get reward for my honesty or did I end up in the doghouse? Doghouse every time.

The new Tiger Woods has just been released, what he done was wrong but there are lads his age doing far worse.
 
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