Jeremy Corbyn-Leadership quality?

[Hobbit]

However Brian, Boris Johnson told Andrew Marr on Sunday, and previously mentioned at the leaders debate, that you can't take what someone has said, or written, in the past, and hold it against them now.

Mmm, what people did in the past is, in effect, on their CV for the future. Would I employ someone with a dodgy past? Yeah right, 'course I would. And that applies to both Johnson and Corbyn.

 

[drdel]

Mmm, what people did in the past is, in effect, on their CV for the future. Would I employ someone with a dodgy past? Yeah right, 'course I would. And that applies to both Johnson and Corbyn.

You'll want MPs, Journalists, Celebrities, to speak and film honestly! - even David Attenborough and his team were found fabricating scenes. As a cynic, I'm afraid truth and accepting blame for one's actions seems to be fading!!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

You'll want MPs, Journalists, Celebrities, to speak and film honestly! - even David Attenborough and his team were found fabricating scenes. As a cynic, I'm afraid truth and accepting blame for one's actions seems to be fading!!

...and inactions...Corbyn with the antisemitic words and actions of some in his party, and indeed Johnson in respect of the actions/inactions of himself and his party over the last 10yrs of government.

 

[SocketRocket]

so you havn't ever made snide remarks, name called, bellittled and bullied anyone with a different oppinion to you?

i have no personal issue with you other than the way you behave in these political threads.

I have never called you or anyone else out individually when discussing issues with others.
Youre behaviour and that of some others on here typify socialists. If they can't win an arguement on merit they jump in with personal attacks. Theres a pattern and it's always the same huddle of left wingers.

 

[Grant85]

Just watched him being grilled by Andrew Neil on T.Vand despite may wanting to be inspired by him and Labour policies have came away being totally less than impressed with his inability to give a straight answer to any question asked and his total lack of personality/leadership quality.
So wanted to see him stand up and be quietly(but forceful)convincing when replying...you know...having some sense of conviction/presence...but all totally lacking!
Now in quandary as to who to vote for-was wanting to go for Labour(despite the plonker/lackey Leonard we have up here).

But Now?????
Jimbo

Definite issue in terms of his presence and speaking ability. I think Corbyn is authentic in that he genuinely believes his policy and views will make the world a better place. And he certainly isn't just turning stuff out because he thinks it's what people want to hear.

However we have been so used to politicians being polished communicators - thinking of the last 2 who won a majority (Blair & Cameron), they were excellent speakers, far better than Corbyn (and Boris for that matter).

Ultimately what you say should be far more important than how you say it, but this is just not the case. Perception is more important than reality and if you can make a barnstorming speech or get a complicated point across succinctly, then you will have far more traction with the masses. Especially if the vast majority of voters will only see or hear a short clip on the news.

I've watched Blair speak quite a bit recently given his interventions on the EU and he is probably still even now the best political communicator in the country. In fairness, Farage is also very good at this sort of thing, albeit I think he isn't all that authentic and is happy to change his policy if he thinks it will keep him relevant and / or popular.

 

[patricks148]

I have never called you or anyone else out individually when discussing issues with others.
Youre behaviour and that of some others on here typify socialists. If they can't win an arguement on merit they jump in with personal attacks. Theres a pattern and it's always the same huddle of left wingers.

just as blinkered as always. its always someome else isn't it and the irony of this in bold is hilarious.

i don't think i've seen anyone starting any name calling, snide digs or personel comments apart from you, if you do get any its by way of a reaction to the way you have behaved. how many infactions and warning have you had in these threads???

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I have never called you or anyone else out individually when discussing issues with others.
Youre behaviour and that of some others on here typify socialists. If they can't win an arguement on merit they jump in with personal attacks. Theres a pattern and it's always the same huddle of left wingers.

Funny that, I always saw you as some kind of man/troll throwback.

The KGB are sounding pretty desperate on here this morning, plenty of bile and mouth frothing, could it be theres something spooking them. Calm down boys the Sun still came up this morning 🙃

Maybe dont bother, the Politburo will be offended what ever you do.

I guess someone hacked your account then when these posts (a small example) were made
1st one at Doon in response to him describing boris, you get personal.

2nd and 3rd you are calling people communists and implying traitors when people were posting about the tories, none of those posts were about forum members, yet you got personal.

But, no, never you is it.

 

[SocketRocket]

I guess someone hacked your account then when these posts (a small example) were made
1st one at Doon in response to him describing boris, you get personal.

2nd and 3rd you are calling people communists and implying traitors when people were posting about the tories, none of those posts were about forum members, yet you got personal.

But, no, never you is it.

Other than the one to Doon who dishes out more than anyone the others you point out are generalisations and target no individuals and you know that but you're blind prejudice against any comment that is anti labour seems to stop you seeing it.

 

[SocketRocket]

just as blinkered as always. its always someome else isn't it and the irony of this in bold is hilarious.

i don't think i've seen anyone starting any name calling, snide digs or personel comments apart from you, if you do get any its by way of a reaction to the way you have behaved. how many infactions and warning have you had in these threads???

All you do on here is jump in with cheap digs. I have never seen a joined up post from you

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Other than the one to Doon who dishes out more than anyone the others you point out are generalisations and target no individuals and you know that but you're blind prejudice against any comment that is anti labour seems to stop you seeing it.

No, I took those posts personal, you’ve admitted as such it is aimed at me and a few others you see as left wingers! “Youre behaviour and that of some others on here typify socialists. If they can't win an arguement on merit they jump in with personal attacks. Theres a pattern and it's always the same huddle of left wingers”
I’ve criticised Labour and Corbyn plenty of times on here and have never seen you call out anything against the tories, you’re as right wing extreme as you see us left wing extreme.
Remember the buffoon comment, first you stated to Old Skier you responded because I called boris a buffoon and when it was proved I didn’t, you changed tack to say it was because I didn’t call Corbyn red man!
It’s never you!
Post 2 & 3 above were not discussions when you responded, they were out of the blue cheap digs.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Anyway, bored discussing it with you.

I’m out

 

[patricks148]

All you do on here is jump in with cheap digs. I have never seen a joined up post from you

I notice you didn't answer about the warning and infractions...?
give it a rest and get back to the Nicky Nacky or what ever it was you having a dig about then.... one of the many cheap digs

 

[SocketRocket]

Anyway, bored discussing it with you.

I’m out

Thats fine but you are missing the point that I was dragged into this even though I wasn't taking part in the discussion. I guess you think that's OK and fine if I slag you off in other threads where you are not posting. Just think about it without your blind prejudice.

 

[SocketRocket]

I notice you didn't answer about the warning and infractions...?
give it a rest and get back to the Nicky Nacky or what ever it was you having a dig about then.... one of the many cheap digs

What infractions, I haven't had any
I can see its pointless trying to discuss anything with you as it will just end up with your juvenile outbursts.

 

[patricks148]

What infractions, I haven't had any
I can see its pointless trying to discuss anything with you as it will just end up with your juvenile outbursts.

there we go, still at it, the only person really posting those is you who started with the Nocky nicky or what ever it was.. k 2b commented as he has noticed all you do is what he discribed and here you are doing it again, you are worse the LP and thats saying something

 

[2blue]

Well it didn’t come across that way...in fact it made you seem like a knob, or even worse, JamesR. (Socket)

Perhaps a smiley next time ðŸ‘

Edited on purpose by moderater

Amusingly, you were involved before the moderater edited the Post.....

Why bring me into a debate I am not involved with. Have I made any disparaging comments about you?
I may have a different political outlook to you and others but name calling me is unacceptable and rather juvenile. Have I ever done this to you, the answer is 'No' so please treat me with the same standards as you would like others to treat you.

I also ask those who have decided to 'like' this behaviour if they also think it's acceptable?

you missed it the 'likes' didn't..... try & keep up. Dib, dib, dob, dob....

 

[SocketRocket]

Amusingly, you were involved before the moderater edited the Post.....


you missed it the 'likes' didn't..... try & keep up. Dib, dib, dob, dob....

What are you whittling on about. I was not involved in the post and my name was dragged into it then it was changed by a Moderator. I don't know how you got involved, guess you're just trouble making.

 

[2blue]

What are you whittling on about. I was not involved in the post and my name was dragged into it then it was changed by a Moderator. I don't know how you got involved, guess you're just trouble making.

JamesR knows how much you like to be involved in everything so he, amusingly, included you but the moderator did what he does. You missed it... we all had a bit of a giggle... no need to get so upset.

 

[SocketRocket]

JamesR knows how much you like to be involved in everything so he, amusingly, included you but the moderator did what he does. You missed it... we all had a bit of a giggle... no need to get so upset.

I didnt miss it. Why did you get involved though, just stirring the muck I guess.

 

[Fade and Die]

Amusingly, you were involved before the moderater edited the Post.....


you missed it the 'likes' didn't..... try & keep up. Dib, dib, dob, dob....

Also stop putting dib ffs....It’s dyb, It stands for “do your best”. (dob stands for “do our best”) ?