Is Tiger Woods a cheat?

[HTL]

They kind of banned Creatine, they asked for it to be a banned substance but with it being impossible to test for they dropped it and banned the sale of it instead, they have also banned Red Bull and similar energy drinks, they are bit nutty about that kinda stuff in France.

True Tiger did put a load of muscle on quickly but his genetics are awesome and trainers the best in the world.

His supplements list prob looked like: - Protein shakes 3 times a day, Creatine, Glutamine, Tribulus, BCAA, Caesein and others like Glucosamine, Cod liver oil multi vit etc

You really would be amazed at what some athletes legally take, its a joke within Sports Science that US athlete have the most expensive piss in the world.

 

[forefortheday]

If pies ever count as performance enhancing then Monty's gonna be in trouble

Golf is a sport where you could get away with taking drugs currently, but I don't belive golf is about sheer muscle look at the long driving stats and the top three ain't exactly The Hulk!

Are there Drugs that can specifically improve Golf muscles HTL?

(Oh and change your sig)

 

[USER1999]

Herb, may be you need to contribute to posts before just diving in and criticising the previous poster. If you have nothging constructive to say, try saying zip. It is a free world, but it doesn't take much to be polite. Sensing a trend in your posts.

 

[HTL]

Are there Drugs that can specifically improve Golf muscles HTL?

(Oh and change your sig)

Kinda, they can take Beta Blockers to help calm them down and reduce stress - would improve driving distance, the classical music business is full of beta blockers nearly all top violinists etc have dabbled with them or know people who do.

Forms of steroids / growth hormone would help with recovery after gym sessions or recovery from injury.

Blood doping or EPO use would improve muscular / cardiovascular endurance, if they ake the weekend this could prove vital.

There are more lesser know drugs than can help but the advantage they would give is minimal so I aint mentioned them.

And yes will change my sig soon, been too busy defending this post.

 

[DCB]

htl,

So what would taking Creatine do for the body ? Will it aid recovery or is it an enhancing substance. If it's naturaly formed and found substance surely there is a "natural" level that the body creates or tolerates before the desired effects become apparent.

Interested to hear what it does.

 

[USER1999]

Whilst I don't say that stronger equals better, you can muscle it out of rough, hit shorter irons, etc, if you have good technique and a bit of brawn. Tigers build is no longer the build of the average pro. He stands out as the only one built this way. Yes, he is the best, but he was the best before this. If he was a cyclist, the drug testers would be camped outside his house.

 

[andiritchie]

I could not belive the size of the tiger in his first event last season,he will have the best diet,trainers and unlike us time to do it

 

[HTL]

1) Increase energy supply and delay fatigue in your muscles by a few seconds so doing a bench press etc you will get a few more reps.

2) Temporarily increase your lean mass and provide volume through "pump" because creatine pulls water into the muscle cells. This is temporary, however, and goes away when you cycle off of creatine.

Its been around as a supplement since the 80s, with bodybuilders being the main users. However, other athlete like sprinters / rugby players usually take it.

No long term research has been done into the side affect due to ethical issues (health and safety) but some studies have shown subjects to bugger up their kidneys when taken in large doses for a prolonged period.

On a last point supplementation has been shown to show no advantage for a 1/3 of all users. So if you do decide to try it there is a good chance you will be pissing your money away.

 

[USER1999]

That makes a lot of sense, but I still think TW has knowledge of it. Plus a lot of talent, obviously. And bionic vision!

 

[DCB]

So although "legal" the substance can improve the athletes ability to train and to recover from the effects of the training. Doesn't see right !

Bet old Tom Morris didn't take anything more than a couple of barley sugars before he played.

Definately against anything which allows the body to go further than a body should go.

 

[HTL]

So although "legal" the substance can improve the athletes ability to train and to recover from the effects of the training. Doesn't see right !

Creatine is just the tip of the ice burg, I could ramble for hours about the use of legal steroids and growth hormones that athletes use.

Ethically it is not right, I agree with you, I believe athletes should all compete naturally with what we are born with, however, drug / supplement use is so out of control it is going to just grow and grow to higher strength supplements and harder to detect drugs.
And soon you will see more and more idiots like the one below walking around your towns.

 

[USER1999]

Urgh, that is not nice.

Is that you?

 

[USER1999]

Sorry, may be didn't mean that. But compared to me, you are a bit developed.

 

[DCB]

so what are the long term problems that the chap in the photo has to look forward? What will happen if he keeps using whatever he uses and what will happen if he stops taking and training alrtogether. His body must be damaged in some way, that's just not natural.

 

[USER1999]

Well, he probably won't have kids, for oh so many reasons!

 

[flandango]

He looks like my novelty practice ball holder!!!

The guy in the photo had the largest arms in the world then they burst. He used to deal them aswel. Not a nice man.

I know many people on steroids as they are as common now as any suplements and a lot cheaper. They all look bigger but i'd kick all they're asses on the golf course!

 

[HTL]

No my friend that aint me, that is Greg Valentino, a freak from America with short man syndrome who decided to inject a load of drugs into his arms to get the worlds biggest bicep / triceps.

This is an example of what modern drugs and diet can do below, this dude just won the Mr Olympia competition and is what all men should aspire to look like (Bollocks!!) according to many gym freaks.

 

[HTL]

so what are the long term problems that the chap in the photo has to look forward?

To name a few found in men, in women users the side affects are even worse................

1) ACNE
2) AGGRESSION
3) ANAPHYLACTIC SHOCK:Anaphylactic shock is an allergic reaction to the presence of a foreign protein in the body. which may restrict a person’s breathing.
4) BIRTH DEFECTS:Anabolic steroids can have an impact on the development of a fetus.
5) BLOOD CLOTTING
6) CANCER
7) DEPRESSION
8) GYNECOMASTIA:Gynecomastia is medical term for the development of female breast tissue in the male body.
9) HAIR LOSS:
10) HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE/ HYPERTENSION:.
11) LIVER ISSUES
12) PROSTATE ENLARGEMENT
13) TESTICULAR ATROPHY:The human body always prefers to remain in a very balanced hormonal state, a tendency, a tendency known as homeostasis. When the administration of androgens from an outside source causes a surplus of hormone, it will cause the body to stop manufacturing its own testosterone. The myth bodybuilders have a small penis is crap, that remains the same size its their nuts that shrink to the size of peanuts. NO GOOD!
14)WATER and SALT RETENTION

 

[USER1999]

Holy s**t, that is so not a good look. I know I am a bit lightweight, but wo, that doesn't work.

A bit of keg helps with the golf swing.

Well, maybe not.

Once i have shaken of this current bug, back to the gym for me. Not to look like this, but get back to my fighting weight of 70 Kg.

 

[Imurg]

Got to say this post has been fascinating... Been reading every word and I'm now trying to take it all in.

Heavy Stuff!!!!!

But a good read

Great post HTL