Is there a lot of trash talked on here?

I haven't bothered to read all the replies as they have no bearing on my reply (apologies to anyone else who posted similar views ......

... is there a lot of rubbish talked on here?
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Yes


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And, in particular to the OP on this thread :D :D
 
Already stated. It's an internet forum, freedom of speech and all that. Read what you want, if it doesn't interest you, don't read it. That's what I do anyway.

It's a bit like a crap tv programme, you know where the off button is!
 
There is a trend at the moment to discount the opinions of higher handicap golfers but..

With all due respect to low handicap golfers - their game is totally different from mine as I am a high handicapper. Those with a lower handicap will presumably have a more consistent swing, better control of the ball and perhaps be in a position to buy and make best use of a premium golf ball.

I on the other hand can slice, shank and push my shots all over the show. A premium golf ball is not something I want to use as I can't afford to lose balls at £4 a go and I'm almost certainly not compressing the ball enough to make it a good idea for me anyway.

So, if I want to know about 'the best' ball I'd like to ask others with a handicap similar to mine and take in some of the experiences of a greater group. Just because you have a high handicap does not mean you don't hold a valid and worthwhile opinion.
 
Matty, what do you think of high handicappers replying to posts in the "ask the experts" room?

In defence of low handicappers, every single one was a high h/cap once upon a time
 
Some of the posters are 10+ handicap. Are they really going to be able to judge? Do they really have the game to tell? I think not.
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10+ handicap. No!? what a shocker. Shall I set up my gallows tonight or tomorrow and end it all to make you happy? :)
 
High handicapper here!

Don't listen to anything I say, discount it imediately.
I may slice off the tee, I may shank a few and slice em round on the fairway.

Just off the green and quite often my chipping and pitching is as good as many with half my handicap. Horses for courses. Anyone read Dave Pelz's book "How to boom your drives 300 yards" No, why? Because he's a short game speciallist!
 
The O.P has a valid point, how many of us would try to offer advice to say a 5 handicap player on the course? Not me I know my place. I am able to offer advice to a 20+ though, not much but the odd tip or two. If I need advise and ask for it on the forum then I know who I want the answer off so I look for their replies.I know it is an open forum and we all love a say, none more than me, but the advice offered is always meant with the best intentions so filter it as required.
 
I thought the O.P. was blanket comment that there is a lot of trash talked on here. There is, clearly that's true.
I wouldn't offer advice to anyone on the course/club/range unless they were a beginner or something.
I do however reckon that opinions on "how to" or "which clubs" are OK from any players at any standard. I'm keen to hear other folks opinions on bats and balls, why not?
 
I think there's a stigma of low handicappers not wanting advice from anyone worse than you. It would be great if this wasn't the case. Some high handicappers have excellent technical knowledge but just can't put it into practice. Have an open mind, that is what I say :D
 
I think there's a stigma of low handicappers not wanting advice from anyone worse than you. It would be great if this wasn't the case. Some high handicappers have excellent technical knowledge but just can't put it into practice. Have an open mind, that is what I say :D
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I agree that high handicappers definitely can give good advice to low handicappers, just as low handicappers can give bad advice to high handicappers BUT... the point about high handicappers having good technical knowledge, as a generalisation, I don't agree with.

I was speaking to a 8/9 handicapper I met the other day who said "I fully understand the mechanics of the golf swing, I just cant do it myself". The problem with what he said was that while he may be able to look at a down the line video of a players swing and tell you whether their takeaway is on plane or not, unless you actually know what an on plane takeaway feels like, its completely useless knowledge in terms of playing the game of golf. So while this guy felt that he knew everything there is to know about the takeaway, he actually doesnt know anything relevant about the takeaway at all, which I can testify to after playing with him.

The reason why learning golf is so complex is because what people think they are doing (in their swing/stroke etc) is usually completely different to what they are actually doing. Because of this, when trying to improve your swing/stroke you are trying to find what certain moves "feel" like, as when you are over the ball, what certain moves look like from down the line is kind of useless.

Therefore when getting "tips" from people, or magazines or whatever, its usually completely hit or miss, because a "feel" that works for one player, may only work for a few other people (or maybe lots of people, or maybe none at all.) A lot of things can be learned from forums, magazines, tips from buddies etc etc... but its sifting through the 99 pieces of advice that dont work for you to find the 1 piece of advice that is the problem.

Thats why the only proper way to learn the game of golf, in my opinion, is with an instructor, as having another pair of eyes looking at what you are doing, while you are "feeling" what you are doing, is the only way of knowing if what you are doing is good/bad/what you are trying to do.

As you say though keeping an open mind is hugely important in learning the game of golf. I used to think I knew everything about the golf swing( when I was an 11 handicapper ;) ) and it wasnt until I accepted that I knew nothing that I started improving. Thats why if someone ever asks me anything about technique I preface it with "this is what works for me" because essentially, while my knowledge of my own golf swing has improved significantly, I still know absolutely nothing (useful) about anyone elses swing.
 
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