Iron lofts

You're free to believe it or not, I don't mind. The number on the bottom of the club is based on launch rather than loft, it's simple as that really. Ask any club manufacturer, the low lofted modern irons launch the same way as an older higher lofted club. My JPX forged irons launch very similarly to the new m2 irons on a iron for iron basis. Oh and low spin is a symptom of all the help in the club, the weighting has a bigger affect on spin than anything.

You're free to your opinion, but it seems very close minded and cynical. You can't have it all, you can either have much more forgiving clubs, or go back to the days of blades and all have the same lofts.
 
Just when it was great that he was restricted to the Art 50 and his posting nonsense someone gives him the fuel to go on again about lofts

Who cares what the number is in relation to the loft - just hit whatever club you need to get to the distance you want. So what if one set you need a 6 iron and the other a 7 iron - does it really matter ? Non

So if you are new to golf and you wanted to swap your 4 iron for a 4 hybrid because you cant hit your 4 iron, would it not be helpful to know that not all 4 irons are the same?
 
So if you are new to golf and you wanted to swap your 4 iron for a 4 hybrid because you cant hit your 4 iron, would it not be helpful to know that not all 4 irons are the same?

No not at all. All 4 irons are different, but you base your hybrids on gapping rather than loft. A 22 degree iron and a 22 degree hybrid would go very different distances too down to launch etc.
 
Just when it was great that he was restricted to the Art 50 and his posting nonsense someone gives him the fuel to go on again about lofts

Who cares what the number is in relation to the loft - just hit whatever club you need to get to the distance you want. So what if one set you need a 6 iron and the other a 7 iron - does it really matter ? Non

Ha I guess he's been through this before and not been able to grasp it?
 
Just when it was great that he was restricted to the Art 50 and his posting nonsense someone gives him the fuel to go on again about lofts

Who cares what the number is in relation to the loft - just hit whatever club you need to get to the distance you want. So what if one set you need a 6 iron and the other a 7 iron - does it really matter ? Non

Just ignore him Phil,it's like anyone that s forcing you to read his posts 👍🏻
 
So if you are new to golf and you wanted to swap your 4 iron for a 4 hybrid because you cant hit your 4 iron, would it not be helpful to know that not all 4 irons are the same?

It's pretty easy to get the information.
My mates Cleveland irons (no sure which model) all have the loft stamped on the head.
 
Just when it was great that he was restricted to the Art 50 and his posting nonsense someone gives him the fuel to go on again about lofts

Who cares what the number is in relation to the loft - just hit whatever club you need to get to the distance you want. So what if one set you need a 6 iron and the other a 7 iron - does it really matter ? Non

It seems to matter in player's minds! You feel a bit of a wimp if you need a 7-iron to hit the ball the same distance as your mate with an 8-iron, even if the club lofts and lengths are in fact pretty similar. I am sure this is part of the psychology of producing irons with stronger and stronger lofts! 😀
 
It seems to matter in player's minds! You feel a bit of a wimp if you need a 7-iron to hit the ball the same distance as your mate with an 8-iron, even if the club lofts and lengths are in fact pretty similar. I am sure this is part of the psychology of producing irons with stronger and stronger lofts! 😀

This is true,I've played with a few people that seem to take great satisfaction in letting others know that they're hitting less club.
 
It seems to matter in player's minds! You feel a bit of a wimp if you need a 7-iron to hit the ball the same distance as your mate with an 8-iron, even if the club lofts and lengths are in fact pretty similar. I am sure this is part of the psychology of producing irons with stronger and stronger lofts! 

completely flawed argument. You're completely ignoring the main factor in numbering of an iron.

If if you feel the need to ignore facts to suit your argument though, feel free 😊
 
I think a lot of people get hung up on loft on irons. The number on the club is generally based on launch, rather than solely the loft. Modern irons actually need lower lofts, or the ball would launch too high due to perimeter weighting etc. Irons now are designed to get up in the air to make things easier for the average golfer, so if you had that technology and old school lofts the clubs would go too high and not go anywhere.
You're far too sensible to be on this forum! My view is that the lowest iron in your bag should be the longest & least lofted one you can get in the air consistently. Modern clubs are much easier to launch (despite what Delc says) but if the makers called it a 3 iron, nobody would buy it because "average golfers can't hit a 3 iron". So they number it 4 or 5 & everyone is happy (except Delc).
 
So if you are new to golf and you wanted to swap your 4 iron for a 4 hybrid because you cant hit your 4 iron, would it not be helpful to know that not all 4 irons are the same?

I agree with this. Let's face it if you are this site then there is a good chance you are a golf geek and you will know how this works. Most golfers are not. Ask 20 golfers tomorrow about lofts and most will think everyone's 6 iron is the same. In particular if you are new to the game it is a very reasonable assumption to make.

How many times do you hear golfers, friends, on a par 3 tee asking "what club are you taking?" They don't ask about loft, they ask the club.
 
Just when it was great that he was restricted to the Art 50 and his posting nonsense someone gives him the fuel to go on again about lofts

Who cares what the number is in relation to the loft - just hit whatever club you need to get to the distance you want. So what if one set you need a 6 iron and the other a 7 iron - does it really matter ? Non

This.

Who gives a rats arse.
 
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