Intermediate Fees

Crazyface said:
Our reduction goes from 18yo to 32yo !!!!:confused:

I brought it up at our agm and the claim was that we don't have many members in this category ( insinuation ...so theirs not many getting it anyway so don't worry your head over it), but that just reinforced my arguement, in my eyes, why then are we offering it then????

OOOOOO, I've had a thought. All those on "intermediate fees", seeing as there isn't many, could be barred from all major comps and teams.

There MUST be an incentive for them to pay the full fees.
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out of curiosity where are you a member at mate?
 
Intermediate fees at the local club go up to 40 here.

Used to be 27 but the jump was too steep and people weren't converting into full members.

Got to remember that it's getting tougher for youngsters - they reckon people in their early 30s are half as wealthy as those now in their 40s were at the same age.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37508968
 
jp5 said:
Intermediate fees at the local club go up to 40 here.

Used to be 27 but the jump was too steep and people weren't converting into full members.

Got to remember that it's getting tougher for youngsters - they reckon people in their early 30s are half as wealthy as those now in their 40s were at the same age.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37508968
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I'm not having that. When i was starting out mortgages were at 7.5% and shot up to 15%, remember that ?????? They are getting far much more money and are on 2.5% mortgages. What with their phone contracts and TV fees that they all willingly pay out for (I have none), I am expected to subsidize their golf?????? Do the car insurance firms say...ahh what shame for them hard done to young boys and girls lets give them a reduction? Do they nutz! So why should golf? If you can't afford it you don't do it. Simple. I want a new car like those of them on the cheap fees that are at my place but can't afford it.
I'm sounding bitter now.
 
Just to run some numbers around here.

A full membership in the area here is around 1500 at somewhere decent. A years rent in the area for a 1 bed flat will be about 7 or 8k before you think about any transport, bills, student loan repayments, taxes etc. Think how much you have to earn to have that sort of figure disposable to leisure.

By some of the logic on here why don't we charge the retired seniors who play 4 rounds every week 3x the fees? Just being facetious there mind
 
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Crazyface said:
I'm not having that. When i was starting out mortgages were at 7.5% and shot up to 15%, remember that ?????? They are getting far much more money and are on 2.5% mortgages. What with their phone contracts and TV fees that they all willingly pay out for (I have none), I am expected to subsidize their golf?????? Do the car insurance firms say...ahh what shame for them hard done to young boys and girls lets give them a reduction? Do they nutz! So why should golf? If you can't afford it you don't do it. Simple. I want a new car like those of them on the cheap fees that are at my place but can't afford it.
I'm sounding bitter now.
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I think you're missing the point massively and looking at it from a selfish perspective.

Aren't they in place to support the future of the club, i.e. you don't get 15 years down the line and realise you're membership is dying off with nobody to replace them. So, by all means tell them not to play golf now if they can't afford full fees but that may have a detrimental impact on your club further down the line.

Pretty sure they exist at my place but, tbh, I have no idea on the details of any offers, I was happy with the "deal" I was offered to be a member so I pay it, don't really care what anyone else is on.
 
Crazyface said:
Our reduction goes from 18yo to 32yo !!!!:confused:

I brought it up at our agm and the claim was that we don't have many members in this category ( insinuation ...so theirs not many getting it anyway so don't worry your head over it), but that just reinforced my arguement, in my eyes, why then are we offering it then????

OOOOOO, I've had a thought. All those on "intermediate fees", seeing as there isn't many, could be barred from all major comps and teams.

There MUST be an incentive for them to pay the full fees.
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I assume you haven't read and absorbed the many positives people have made about this catagory.

Introducing restrictions to this catagory is counter productive and would mean less income for your club.
 
The more younger members the better as far as I am concerned - and as I am happy to pay what I pay then I hold no resentments against younger folks getting it cheaper.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
The more younger members the better as far as I am concerned - and as I am happy to pay what I pay then I hold no resentments against younger folks getting it cheaper.
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I think Hobbit nails the impact perfectly about it keeping his fees down. It reminds me of a comment a member at Hillside made when we were last out in the outing, I apologised as it was slow, he told me not to worry as all is visitors were keeping his fees down.
 
Val said:
I think Hobbit nails the impact perfectly about it keeping his fees down. It reminds me of a comment a member at Hillside made when we were last out in the outing, I apologised as it was slow, he told me not to worry as all is visitors were keeping his fees down.
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^^^Exactly
 
I think it's OK but to make up for the difference they should be made to clean the Old Codgers Clubs and do 5 hours caddying duties for them a week. No such thing as a free lunch!
 
Too many people spending too much time worrying about what other people are spending. If you're happy with your deal then what does it matter?
 
Crazyface said:
Are they fair? I don't think so. I am fully aware of why some clubs have them, but should they really be offering cheap as chips golf to over 18's who can, and are, earning more money than some members?
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Without the 'gentle increase', there would be far fewer Intermediates that stay on to become Full members!

While the age range/limit might be debatable, the object is to retain members where membership is actually decreasing!

So 'Yes' they should still have them - if that's their policy and it's working!
 
I have a real issue with these intermediate fees. Full membership for 7 days is c£1600 at my club and yet we still offer discounts up to 35 years old. Many of these are in the prime of their life, plenty of disposable income, well paid jobs, can use the course at prime time and paying significantly less than me and anyone from 36 upwards.

I totally get the whole premise of trying to attract young blood and retaining juniors but this seems totally excessive. I accept that I don't have to pay the fees but it seems that most clubs around here have some form of intermediate fees. There has to be a better way of retaining and encouraging memberships without an imbalance of fees for such a long period
 
HomerJSimpson said:
I have a real issue with these intermediate fees. Full membership for 7 days is c£1600 at my club and yet we still offer discounts up to 35 years old. Many of these are in the prime of their life, plenty of disposable income, well paid jobs, can use the course at prime time and paying significantly less than me and anyone from 36 upwards.

I totally get the whole premise of trying to attract young blood and retaining juniors but this seems totally excessive. I accept that I don't have to pay the fees but it seems that most clubs around here have some form of intermediate fees. There has to be a better way of retaining and encouraging memberships without an imbalance of fees for such a long period
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Do you think your fees have risen as a result, or have they been kept lower by bringing in more money?
 
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