pbrown7582
Money List Winner
the course website pros tips recommends you play it as you suggest laying up short to avoid bunkers and playing for a chip nad putt par.
the course website pros tips recommends you play it as you suggest laying up short to avoid bunkers and playing for a chip nad putt par.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Apologies if this has already been asked in respect of this hole - but what is the stroke index. That will tell you whether or not you should be going for the green.
Qwerty
Tour Winner
looks about right to me for a hole that's stroke index 2.
I don't know the course but I'd be surprised if there's not at least one par 5 that offers a good birdie opportunity.
It about looking at the course over 18 holes to judge whether it's fair or not.
I don't know the course but I'd be surprised if there's not at least one par 5 that offers a good birdie opportunity.
It about looking at the course over 18 holes to judge whether it's fair or not.
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Deleted member 3432
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Can't see the issue, play the hole the way thats gives you the best score and move on to the next. Some holes are difficult, a bogey is not a bad score and some holes are easier, chance to get a shot back. Don't go for the green because you think you have to, laying up at times can save you a few shots by eliminating the 8,9 & 10 on the card!
Piece
Tour Winner
I've played this course countless times as its my nearest. It's a tricky hole as its out of town left and right. If you get a decent length drive then it's ok. A bogey on that hole is acceptable as there are a few holes on the rest of the course that are far easier birdie opportunities...or even eagle; e.g. the last!
chris661
Money List Winner
That IMO is the wrong way to look at it. Does that mean if you play off 14 you should only be trying to get to the green on 4 holes? I dont play off scratch but can reach the green on the SI 1 at my course what does that mean?
Foxholer
Blackballed
Time you learned some course management imo!
Mill Ride near Ascot has a hole that has a similar rating (P4 SI3 off Yellows, P5 SI7 of Whites). Green is very narrow with water left and past, a bunker short and junky rough right, there is water left and OB right waiting for errant drive; otherwise a pretty straight hole, though uphill slightly and often into wind! I play it 4R, 3W, whatever off whites (taking 2 sets of danger out of play) and Driver past water), 6i, PW/9i off yellows. I get more 4s that way - and certainly higher points - than any other way.
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vkurup
Guest
Agree.... i think there are a couple of driveable P4. ( I got just outside the 16th 340y downhill, finished on a par). The last is one of the most interesting holes I have played. Drive over water and thru a narrow opening between the trees. I got on the fairway, and then finished on bogie. But very satisfying hole as it is a par or a birdie-able hole. Was the highlight of my day. (though the 17th is a bit of a joke - having to tee with a gap/sand wedge)
whats wrong with Blasting it over the the dog leg straight onto the green if the fairway is the shape you say it is??
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vkurup
Guest
whats wrong with Blasting it over the the dog leg straight onto the green if the fairway is the shape you say it is??
2 things...
1) I cant drive 500+y yet.
2) That line is protected by big trees..
To be fair, it is a left handed 'J' shape rather than a full crescent.
but shirley if the hole is only 450 and its dogleg left dogleg left that must make it under 300?
tee it high and watch it fly i say.
Slime
Tour Winner
I used to be a member there and would say that SI 2 for that hole is about right...................it's a difficult par 4.
However there are at least 4 driveable par 4's for the straight hitters off the yellows & I have seen an albatros on the par 5 18th. A good drive over the water gives you a good view of the green about 200yds away.............and that's a par 5.
Slime.
rosecott
Money List Winner
Slime
Tour Winner
What's wrong with that, it gets the grey matter working. A par 3 doesn't have to be long to be difficult.
8th at Troon.......123 yards
7th at Pebble......103 yards
17th at Milford.....107 yards
19th at Legend....900 yards................but this is quite unusual!
Slime.
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vkurup
Guest
I loved the 17th.. I should not say this loudly.. but lost a couple of balls on the 17th (107y)
1) took a half swing of 9i.. saw it fly past
2) took a half swing of PW.. landed and rolled off (the green is v v tight, and does not seem to have any
3) SW.. and the it stayed in play.. finally!!!
BTW, tnx for warning about the Legend.. I am not attempting a 900y P3!!! :clap:
Slime
Tour Winner
Check it out, you might change your mind !
http://twistedsifter.com/2009/05/th...yards-legend-golf-safari-resort-south-africa/
Slime.
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
Just looked at a satellite view of the course and don't see an issue with the hole. Plus at 443 yards, I don't there are many people hitting it two even if it were straight
Piece
Tour Winner
To drive the green from the tee will take a drawn drive that carries 450y. Line of sight is not available and even if it was, you need to carry 400y. Only available to Joe Miller, maybe...!
Crow
Crow Person
What I find strange is not the fact that it's a difficult par 4, but that it's a doddle of a par 5 off the whites and yet it's index 2.... Must be a banker when you're playing a handicap qualifying round
Slime
Tour Winner
Unfortunately most golfers are not arrow straight off the tee & probably the most common fault in a tee shot is the slice, and as it's OOB all down the right hand side of a hole that curves to the left and thick rough all the way down the left of the pretty narrow fairway I would not say it was 'a doddle'.
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