Ian Holloway

[SaintHacker]

Because ultimately they got relegated again, which is looking likely is what will happen to Palace. Playing pretty football is all very well but particularly in your first season in the prem, you play to gain points enough to survive. Holloway can't do it. Fair play to the bloke for sticking to his principles and all that but if it just leads to relegation then its pointless.

 

[jimbob.someroo]

In fairness Jimbob, we didn't get relegated because we couldn't hold a lead at Old Trafford, we got relegated because we only took 8 points off the other teams at the bottom. The Charlie transfer saga didn't help either. I also think that our good position at Christmas made the Chairman think we were in a strong enough position to stay up and so he didn't need to spend on strengthening the team, although given his frugality there was no guarantee he would have spent either way.

What a season we had though

Agreed entirely. And if I'm honest, I'm not sure id have wanted to stay up if we'd have been playing boring hoof-it style football. Those games against Liverpool and Spurs in particular were some of the best I've ever watched as a Blackpool fan.

Speaking of which, BBC reporting that Palace looking at Pulis? Good choice and he's got a sniff of keeping them up with his record of building solid defences. Now, if he'd only wear a suit. Nout worse than a manager in trackies.

SaintHacker, I was probably doing Southampton a disservice. They've played some great football and look like a proper prem side now, rather than one that is riding on the high of being in the prem in the first place.

 

[SaintHacker]

SaintHacker, I was probably doing Southampton a disservice. They've played some great football and look like a proper prem side now, rather than one that is riding on the high of being in the prem in the first place.

Not at all mate, this is a ridiculous start for us. Most of us are having to pinch ourselves to believe whats happening. We are playing a great system now the manager has had a chance to get the players where he wants them fitness wise though, and teams just aren't coping with our fast high pressing game. Will it continue? Injuries aside why not, but then its a long season and anythings possible so I'm just enjoying the ride at the moment!

 

[bladeplayer]

Agreed entirely. And if I'm honest, I'm not sure id have wanted to stay up if we'd have been playing boring hoof-it style football. Those games against Liverpool and Spurs in particular were some of the best I've ever watched as a Blackpool fan.

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With reaspect id have to disagree on this, i think all that matters the 1st year or two is staying up however you can ,
then the club grows financially and attracts other players and grows and grows .. ok the balloon payments help the pain of relegation but its just a sticky plaster on a broken arm compared to the plaster of paris protection the wealth the EPL gives ya

 

[In_The_Rough]

Not at all mate, this is a ridiculous start for us. Most of us are having to pinch ourselves to believe whats happening. We are playing a great system now the manager has had a chance to get the players where he wants them fitness wise though, and teams just aren't coping with our fast high pressing game. Will it continue? Injuries aside why not, but then its a long season and anythings possible so I'm just enjoying the ride at the moment!

He has made some great signings for Southampton. Really like Lovren at the back, getting him from Lyon was a real coup, Osvaldo however looks like he could be a flop though but apart from him things look good for them, think they will certainly finish in the top half of the division.

 

[Robobum]

With reaspect id have to disagree on this, i think all that matters the 1st year or two is staying up however you can ,
then the club grows financially and attracts other players and grows and grows .. ok the balloon payments help the pain of relegation but its just a sticky plaster on a broken arm compared to the plaster of paris protection the wealth the EPL gives ya

That's not true. WBA are the model yoyo club, never over stretched themselves on their first couple of prem visits and are now a comfortable prem club who give everybody a game.

 

[jimbob.someroo]

With reaspect id have to disagree on this, i think all that matters the 1st year or two is staying up however you can ,
then the club grows financially and attracts other players and grows and grows .. ok the balloon payments help the pain of relegation but its just a sticky plaster on a broken arm compared to the plaster of paris protection the wealth the EPL gives ya

True, but the problem with us is that our chairman does not reinvest money into the club - and not just in the usual whinging way. He took more money than the playing staff combined during the prem season (£11 mil) and hardly bought. Our big pre-season signing was Matty Phillips for £700,000. They brought others in on frees and some weird undisclosed deals, but there was never any ambition to stay up.

The next season we sold Charlie for £7 mil to Liverpool and with the money spent a grand total of £1 mil on Barry Ferguson and Bogdanovic. Unlike teams like QPR and Southampton, there's not belief from the top that we should be in the prem from the top, so we don't invest.

If you want to know more about our illustrious leaders, just google the Oystons. Owen, majority shareholder and chairman's father was convicted of rape in the 90's and Chairman Karl flirted with bankruptcy, resulting in him having to be removed from the board for a while. Great club, horrible owners. But at least we're relatively financially secure. Now if we could just stop our manager threatening to kill match officials in the tunnel, we'd be on to a winner :whoo:

Sorry to take this massively off kilter.

 

[Robobum]

Because ultimately they got relegated again, which is looking likely is what will happen to Palace. Playing pretty football is all very well but particularly in your first season in the prem, you play to gain points enough to survive. Holloway can't do it. Fair play to the bloke for sticking to his principles and all that but if it just leads to relegation then its pointless.

It wasn't pretty football. It was fast attacking football with players punching above their weight. Football is a poorer place without people like Holloway involved.

 

[jimbob.someroo]

Football is a poorer place without people like Holloway involved.

Despite, my criticisms of him; this I agree with entirely.

 

[bladeplayer]

That's not true. WBA are the model yoyo club, never over stretched themselves on their first couple of prem visits and are now a comfortable prem club who give everybody a game.

Apologies i was referring to just football wise in response to Jimbobs comment

"'Im not sure id have wanted to stay up if we'd have been playing boring hoof-it style football. "

im sure most fans of clubs that were relegated , would wish they had just parked the bus on some occasions instead of trying to be pretty to watch , and then lose ..

I agree totally that clubs that over extend themselves financially are asking for trouble long term

 

[Evesdad]

He was utter tosh at ours! Really excited when he was appointed but ended with us dropping into the third tier for the first time ever. Clueless.