I tried to apologise.....

Its all kicking off tonight

Billy is throwing his toys out of the pram big time.

We have all been stuck behind slow players and being human, we will all react differently,
I would probably have phoned the pro shop and got someone out to tell them to let faster groups through.

However there has been times where I wanted to barge past, but stopped myself

Lets chill guys

Fragger
 
I can sort of understand why some people would choose to believe that I made this up and that is completely your choice I guess.

I always knew that would I did wasn't exactly right but at the time I felt that I was wronged so 'sod it'.

But...I listened to a lot of comments and I realised I should have took the moral high ground and that I should not have reaced in the way I did and so I tried to apologise.

We all make mistakes and they'll be many more mistakes that I'll make throughout my life I'm sure. But it's what we learn after we've made counts.

I'm no angel, far from it. And to be honest, life would be very boring if we did live like angels but I'm trying my best.

I get why you took the action you did as the frustration builds and no outlet for it - try kicking your trolley as that helps me :confused:

Fact is in the calm light of day you've thought about it, listened to what people thought about it and reacted in what is quite a courageous way as it's never easy to say sorry and then broadcast that you have.

So - nice one :thup:
 
Its all kicking off tonight

Billy is throwing his toys out of the pram big time.

Really?! I'm actually quite enjoying myself!

I think you'll find it's actually one of the forum "stalwarts" who is struggling to keep a lid on his emotions, but then of course it's so much easier to sight the crosshairs on a relative newcomer, isn't it?!

Wouldn't want to upset Smiffy now, would we?
 
Mmm let me see, now i like leaney and i like billyboots, but which is best?

There's only one way to find out.....


By the way, free the Goswick 8.
;)
 
Really?! I'm actually quite enjoying myself!

I think you'll find it's actually one of the forum "stalwarts" who is struggling to keep a lid on his emotions, but then of course it's so much easier to sight the crosshairs on a relative newcomer, isn't it?!

Wouldn't want to upset Smiffy now, would we?

Trust me mate, Homer is the biggest stalwart that this forum has and he has been through the mill a few times

If any forum member steps out of line, he can expect to be reined in by his peers.

As you are fairly new i'll let you into a secret, Lots of Smiffys posts are a bit "tongue in Cheek", so dont read too much into those that get your goat.

And yes i'd class smiffy as a mate, he is a top bloke, but id still call him a knob if he deserved it

Fragger
 
Trust me mate, Homer is the biggest stalwart that this forum has and he has been through the mill a few times

If any forum member steps out of line, he can expect to be reined in by his peers.

As you are fairly new i'll let you into a secret, Lots of Smiffys posts are a bit "tongue in Cheek", so dont read too much into those that get your goat.

And yes i'd class smiffy as a mate, he is a top bloke, but id still call him a knob if he deserved it

Fragger

Point taken.
 
But with nearly 12,000 posts to your name on this forum I doubt anyone here will be quite so quick to give you a hard time about it.
Number of forum posts has nothing to do with it Billy. I was going to put a smiley after my "pipe and smoke it" comment but for some reason Firefox is not allowing me to do that. But I would still have done what Leanie done. Seriously. My missus has just started playing, she hasn't been out on a "proper" course yet, she is having loads of lessons before she does. But she has been made fully aware of the etiquette side of things and knows full well that when she gets out on a course proper she will immediately let somebody through whether they be a single, pair, three or fourball. She does not want to hold anybody up. She would not need to be asked. She would do it without prompting, and would do it at the earliest opportunity. The lady in front of Leanie was (by his account) knobbing the ball along the ground. Similar to what my wife would be doing. This "lady" turned around and flatly refused to let Leanie through. I'm sorry. I would have seen red. I don't need anger management, but bad manners always make me see red. It's called "common courtesy" and I'm afraid I wouldn't have reported her to the secretary/pro. I would have played through. Whether they liked it or not. But I would only have played through had it been safe to do so. That's common courtesy too.
 
Then with the greatest respect, mate, why not say that rather than coming across as a troll?

Many contributors here know one another through forum meets. Many more of us have to rely on the written word, which is often far from easy to fully interpret. I have fallen foul of that at least twice this week, and for that I apologise.

I'm afraid that, as I don't know you (although I accept you doubtless are a top fella), if you write in an aggressive tone then aggressive is how many will interpret you, myself included.

Let's draw a line under this whole sorry mess and move on, trying to remain firiendly in the process.

(If I could get the smileys to work myself I would add a hug there, by the way).
 
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get a room !!!
 
Then with the greatest respect, mate, why not say that rather than coming across as a troll? Many contributors here know one another through forum meets. Many more of us have to rely on the written word, which is often far from easy to fully interpret. I have fallen foul of that at least twice this week, and for that I apologise. I'm afraid that, as I don't know you (although I accept you doubtless are a top fella), if you write in an aggressive tone then aggressive is how many will interpret you, myself included. Let's draw a line under this whole sorry mess and move on, trying to remain firiendly in the process. (If I could get the smileys to work myself I would add a hug there, by the way).
No offence was taken Billy. I love everybody xxxxxxx
 
To be fair, I believe in the utmost good manners on the golf course, sat on the committee for several years and would have told them that we were going to play through if they didn't call us through as their actions were quite clearly unacceptable. If they are approached in the right way ie not aggressively and still refuse to do the right thing then I think it's fair to state you intentions and carry them out.

I had a situation about a year ago where I teed off on a par 5 after the group ahead had played and walked, I absolutely nutted the ball miles further than normal and clearly got close to or past the group ahead as they were walking. I absolutely didn't hit anyone and wouldn't have driven if I thought I would. I went straight to the first person in the group, a lady, who was nearest and offerred an apology. She came back with " you have played 9 holes you must know how far you are hitting the ball" and I have to say that all I could say in return was " if you can't accept an apology in the spirit it was given then I withdraw it and you can ***** right off"

I am not proud of what I said but there are just times that you have to do what you have to do!


Chris
 
Billysboots...you'll soon learn who the Knobs are on here ;) And if you want the smileys...try this

At the top rightish, click settings
Then down the left side "general settings"
Then near the bottom, select Enhanced Interface as shown below.
[h=3]Miscellaneous Options[/h] Message Editor Interface:
  • Enhanced Interface - Full WYSIWYG Editing
Hope that helps :)
 
" if you can't accept an apology in the spirit it was given then I withdraw it and you can ***** right off"

I am not proud of what I said but there are just times that you have to do what you have to do!


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Like it.
 
This "lady" turned around and flatly refused to let Leanie through. I'm sorry. I would have seen red. I don't need anger management, but bad manners always make me see red. It's called "common courtesy" and I'm afraid I wouldn't have reported her to the secretary/pro. I would have played through. Whether they liked it or not. But I would only have played through had it been safe to do so. That's common courtesy too.

Then you would have been just as wrong as Leaney was.

If someone in these circumstances said a flat no to me playing through then that would not be the end of the conversation. I would continue the discussion as civilly as possible until the outcome was the correct one and the person changed their mind. And I can assure you that they would change their mind.

Then play through and still go and have a word with the club manager or secretary about their behaviour.

Just barging through has got nothing whatsoever to do with common courtesy and however you choose to dress it up, it is out of order and not acceptable behaviour on a golf course.
 
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