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How should the UK government deal with IS?

So now I need to avoid all who have been to Africa recenetly aswell as extremist Muslims? Jeeez my options are very limited living in Birmingham... Do you have a link to that underground bunker you have spoken about?
 
So now I need to avoid all who have been to Africa recenetly aswell as extremist Muslims? Jeeez my options are very limited living in Birmingham... Do you have a link to that underground bunker you have spoken about?

To be informed you need to actually read the information my learned friend. If you had you would clearly see that you don't need to avoid anyone; African, Muslim or anyone else for that matter.
 
To be informed you need to actually read the information my learned friend. If you had you would clearly see that you don't need to avoid anyone; African, Muslim or anyone else for that matter.

So if you lock me in a room with a muslim extremist who wants the blood of the English fully armed and someone who has been in contact with the infected in Africa then I am perfectly safe? Do you live in narnia?
 
So if you lock me in a room with a muslim extremist who wants the blood of the English fully armed and someone who has been in contact with the infected in Africa then I am perfectly safe? Do you live in narnia?

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At least you admit defeat :thup:

Anyway today has been fun but unfortunately ive ran out of maggots :cheers:

One last thing... Do you not worry about the folk infected with Ebola returning as the undead Woody? That would be a whole new threat to humanity and would make IS look like little girls.
 
Well that is an uncomfortable read

Hoping the majority of the posts are not serious

Wiping out a whole region ?!

Judging a race or religion on the actions of a minority
 
At least you admit defeat :thup:

Anyway today has been fun but unfortunately ive ran out of maggots :cheers:

One last thing... Do you not worry about the folk infected with Ebola returning as the undead Woody? That would be a whole new threat to humanity and would make IS look like little girls.

I can't decide if you actually agree with me that you are stupid, or have absolutely no idea you are? Nice little tangent to go off down though when questioned on your rather bizarre idea that the best way to irradiate a small minority of misguided psychopaths is mass genocide of the majority. Well played sir.
 
I can't decide if you actually agree with me that you are stupid, or have absolutely no idea you are? Nice little tangent to go off down though when questioned on your rather bizarre idea that the best way to irradiate a small minority of misguided psychopaths is mass genocide of the majority. Well played sir.

Bore off :thup:
 
TBH, the UK and US Governments have to take some responsibility for what's happened in the likes of Iraq, Libya and now Syria. All had strict dictatorships that kept a lid on these extremists, if we had stayed out of it the region would still be pretty stable, we might not agree with how these country's were run, but none of these extremists were allowed to operate.
 
Actually I think Daveyboy has a point. I've just been to my local post office that is run by Muslims. And as I am I am a closet racist who would probably find like minded people agreeing with my views on the BNP forum, as I approached the counter I was not sure if they would be their usual cheery selves and serve me. Or rip out a knife and execute me on the spot.

And I'm sure most of you (but I'm sure not all) are glad to hear I survived the counter. And instead of killing me dead, they engaged in a bit of small talk, weighed my letter, put a special delivery stamp on it and gave me a receipt. But I can tell you it was a close run thing. And it's so difficult to tell nowadays. So I'll keep my eyes on them.
 
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Actually I think Daveyboy has a point. I've just been to my local post office that is run by Muslims. And as I am I am a closet racist who would probably find like minded people agreeing with my views on the BNP forum, as I approached the counter I was not sure if they would be their usual cheery selves and serve me. Or rip out a knife and execute me on the spot.

And I'm sure most of you (but I'm sure not all) are glad to hear I survived the counter. And instead of killing me dead, they engaged in a bit of small talk, weighed my letter, put a special delivery stamp on it and gave me a receipt. But I can tell you it was a close run thing. And it's so difficult to tell nowadays. So I'll keep my eyes on them.

Great :clap: Some comedian you are... How long did it take you to think that one up?
 
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TBH, the UK and US Governments have to take some responsibility for what's happened in the likes of Iraq, Libya and now Syria. All had strict dictatorships that kept a lid on these extremists, if we had stayed out of it the region would still be pretty stable, we might not agree with how these country's were run, but none of these extremists were allowed to operate.

The strict dictatorships were also causing humanitarian crimes and genocide

Killing thousands upon thousands

To say the at none of the extremists were allowed to operate is laughable - 9/11 shows how false that statement is
 
TBH, the UK and US Governments have to take some responsibility for what's happened in the likes of Iraq, Libya and now Syria. All had strict dictatorships that kept a lid on these extremists, if we had stayed out of it the region would still be pretty stable, we might not agree with how these country's were run, but none of these extremists were allowed to operate.

It goes back further than recent dictators. The US and UK sponsored a coup to overthrow Mossadegh in Iran in 50s. It was over oil, funnily enough. That led to the Shah, and in response an islamic theocracy overthrew the Shah in the 70s. Meantime, the US backed the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, because islamic freedom fighters were better than Ruskie Commies. They became Al Qaeda. Then the US best friend in the region, Saddam gets wrongly blamed for 9/11, but only after the US got all the Saudi royals safely out of the US, even though he was a foe of Al Qaeda, and non-existent WMDs, so a war is started which kills tens of thousand of people and destabilises the precarious balance with Iran even further. Now Saddam was undoubtedly an evil tyrant, but there have been quite a few of those around that the US did not start wars with. So Iran starts to develop nukes, in response to their perception of the threat from Israel, and everyone goes crazy. Not about Israel's nukes, of course, because we all pretend those don't exist. Oh, and the UK and US were instrumental in the foundation of Israel too, and who would have thought a Jewish state in the area would cause problems?

The west seems to cause a bigger problem every time it gets involved, so it should step out. Let other local states which have the capability, do the heavy lifting this time. Give them diplomatic and strategic support, but otherwise leave this as a regional issue. If the wets is really concerned about beheadings of innocent people, Saudi does far more of those, so when does that invasion begin?
 
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The problems are numerous and complex and some of the remarks on here are horrific. Those that may get killed by military intervention will be martyrs and many will follow in their shoes. They are a secretive and moving target so how can you be sure they are eradicated. They are linked across the globe and so the terrorist threat will never go away. It seems now Turkey and IS have exchanged prisoners and hostages and so there is obviously a deal of brokering going on.

As far as living in fear, I commuted to London during the IRA mainland attacks, have been in the vicinity of the Harrods bombing although thankfully close enough not have been directly involved, and know people that were in a similar position with the London bombings. It's never stopped me doing my day to day work and enjoying one of the most thriving capital cities
 
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