How should the UK government deal with IS?

[Hacker Khan]

Well yes it would be impossible to kill only the enemy but we could simply label the rest as potential future recruits... The longer you leave these people to operate the more new recruits they will recieve and the bigger the threat will become. In all honesty saying nuke the lot is a stupid comment for me to make as it would never ever happen (Wishful thinking) but something really needs to happen with this threat and religion across the entire world as its getting out of control. How can I trust one Muslim from another when any one of them have the potential to rip a blade out and attempt to publicly execute me.

Just to get this right, you want to bomb entire regions as they contain 'potential new recruits' and you can't trust any Muslims as they may execute you.

 

[bladeplayer]

We need to identify where their arms are coming from and cut that supply off along with the funding they are getting, starve them of all resources, any country's known to support or supply them have immediate sanctions put in place and are cut-off, make sure all country's do not pay ransoms, intelligence from airports of Europeans travelling in & out of the country (Syria, Iraq, Turkey) from across the world, large donations in & out of bank accounts that are not major corporate business need to be identified and frozen, pinpoint strongholds and flatten them, we need a lot of intelligence gathering which I am positive is happening but some Middle East country's, who are saying the right things publicly, will still be slightly holding back on key information which could help more!

New laws need to be set up immediately with regards to UK or European citizens leaving the country to take up arms, its nothing less than treason and as such we need to update and renew some very old antiquated laws to protect our shores from those looking to return and becoming sleepers over here and recruit new followers. If some of these hold dual passports then its simple to me, deport them to their preferred other identity and let them live in the country they are fighting in and for.

If the world has changed so much, we need to change and adapt our laws to suit this hostility quickly.

My answer which is probably in reaction and without much sensible consideration is i will get the list of terrorists they want freed and every time they kill someone kill one of them ,


of course tho "civilised" society cannot act this way for many "reasons" and hey ho this is how alot of problems in modern society have mushroomed , softly softly re educate instead of punish , make prisons hotels instead of placed to fear & dread returning to ,

Anyhow in reality unless these scum have factories they have to be sourcing there armoury and ammo somewhere , gota source this and stop the flow ,,

meanwhile home on the farm as we are piling resources on IS , al quieda [sp] an their like are building away nicely in the shadow


MODS I hope theres is nothing untoword in this post if there is feel free to delete rather than edit it , thank u

Thanks Rob , it seems a logical answer to me , and to you obviously , any idea why this isnt happening , im sure the Americans have a good idea who controls /runs the legal & Illegal weapons industry ..

World news has to handle this carefully aswell , i know it needs reporting , but IMO it is better to starve Terrorism of notoriety & air time ,they wont go away but they will lose their shock and awe publicity

 

[DAVEYBOY]

Just to get this right, you want to bomb entire regions as they contain 'potential new recruits' and you can't trust any Muslims as they may execute you.

Listen there are a number of extremist groups in this world who use the muslim religion as there forefront, based on that im afraid I can't identfy an extremist from a non extremist, it would be great if they wore little armbands to identify themselves but unfortunatly they do not. As for the other guy talking about the nutters that go around murdering people... Yes they do but at this current time muslim extremists are a far greater threat to my own safety and my family's safety.

 

[woody69]

Listen there are a number of extremist groups in this world who use the muslim religion as there forefront, based on that im afraid I can't identfy an extremist from a non extremist, it would be great if they wore little armbands to identify themselves but unfortunatly they do not. As for the other guy talking about the nutters that go around murdering people... Yes they do but at this current time muslim extremists are a far greater threat to my own safety and my family's safety.

Your location states Birmingham, is that where you are actually based? If so Muslim extremists are no more a greater threat to you than you getting hit by lightening, I mean when was the last time Muslim extremists targeted Birmingham and managed to kill someone? if you are actually based out in Syria or Iraq then you may have an argument! Talk about paranoia...

 

[woody69]

Just to get this right, you want to bomb entire regions as they contain 'potential new recruits' and you can't trust any Muslims as they may execute you.

It's the military strategy of using the proverbial sledge-hammer to crush a nut.... and then putting the nut into a blender, make a nut smoothie, drink it, excrete it then smash that.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

Your location states Birmingham, is that where you are actually based? If so Muslim extremists are no more a greater threat to you than you getting hit by lightening, I mean when was the last time Muslim extremists targeted Birmingham and managed to kill someone? if you are actually based out in Syria or Iraq then you may have an argument! Talk about paranoia...

I bet the victims of 9/11 and the London transport bombings would have been called paranoid too if they told you what was going to happen. Luckily most attacks in this country are stopped before they happen, And to say in the current climate that we are more likely to be struck by lighting than a terror attack is just plain stupid.

 

[shewy]

there's no easy answer, we are not the world's police anymore so the way I see it, pull out every UK citizen, shut up shop all travel stopped and let them get on with it. We have enough problems at home which the money would be better spent.
Yes it's a horrible situation but not one we should try and sort out, leave it to thier neighbours and fellow muslims.
Then after all that if they start to attack us, unlikely since we pose no threat, then we respond so heavily that they dare not try it again.
As for the UK nationals who have gone over there to fight, leave them there, rip up thier passports.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Listen there are a number of extremist groups in this world who use the muslim religion as there forefront, based on that im afraid I can't identfy an extremist from a non extremist, it would be great if they wore little armbands to identify themselves but unfortunatly they do not. As for the other guy talking about the nutters that go around murdering people... Yes they do but at this current time muslim extremists are a far greater threat to my own safety and my family's safety.

So your answer to my question was basically yes?

And just to help you out as those pesky blinders are not wearing armband,s then the non extremist fundamentalists are more than likely the 99.99% of Muslims who have lived in this country and you no doubt have come into contact with, especially if you have ever gone into Birmingham.

 

[woody69]

I bet the victims of 9/11 and the London transport bombings would have been called paranoid too if they told you what was going to happen. Luckily most attacks in this country are stopped before they happen, And to say in the current climate that we are more likely to be struck by lighting than a terror attack is just plain stupid.

I didn't say it was impossible, I said it was highly unlikely. You need to look at some stats...

You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack
You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack
You are 6 times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack
You are 8 times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack
You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane
You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack
You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack
You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack
You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack
You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack
You are 9 times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack
You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist

Could you be killed by a terrorist attack in the UK? Of course, is it likely? No.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

So your answer to my question was basically yes?

If your question was do I think we should Nuke the Middle East then yes :thup:

Also like ive already said its never going to happen but hey we all have hopes and dreams :cheers:

 

[Fish]

Your location states Birmingham, is that where you are actually based? If so Muslim extremists are no more a greater threat to you than you getting hit by lightening, I mean when was the last time Muslim extremists targeted Birmingham and managed to kill someone? if you are actually based out in Syria or Iraq then you may have an argument! Talk about paranoia...

I think your view is pretty naive, why, because every police officer who has a firearms licence is currently carrying them in major cities across the country because the threat level and intelligence dictates that to be the case, how do I know, believe me, I do

 

[Hacker Khan]

I didn't say it was impossible, I said it was highly unlikely. You need to look at some stats...

You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack
You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack
You are 6 times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack
You are 8 times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack
You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane
You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack
You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack
You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack
You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack
You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack
You are 9 times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack
You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist

Could you be killed by a terrorist attack in the UK? Of course, is it likely? No.

I'd suggest bombing all the cars and police officers at the same time then, just to be safe. As you can't tell nowadays when one of those police officers is there to try and ensure public order or to execute you. Especially if you are paranoid nut job. Better safe than sorry...

 

[Hacker Khan]

If your question was do I think we should Nuke the Middle East then yes :thup:

Also like ive already said its never going to happen but hey we all have hopes and dreams :cheers:

Wow, to think swearing is banned on here partly because it is thought it gives the wrong impression to advertisers. I bet Emirates Airlines will be thinking twice now...

 

[DAVEYBOY]

I'd suggest bombing all the cars and police officers at the same time then, just to be safe. As you can't tell nowadays when one of those police officers is there to try and ensure public order or to execute you. Especially if you are paranoid nut job. Better safe than sorry...

I never thought of that... Now I'm really worried

 

[woody69]

I think your view is pretty naive, why, because every police officer who has a firearms licence is currently carrying them in major cities across the country because the threat level and intelligence dictates that to be the case, how do I know, believe me, I do

I couldn't care less how you know or don't know (winky smiley) - It is not naive at all. It's realistic. I don't doubt that due to the issues currently going on in Syria and Iraq there is an increased "threat" and that's all it is at the moment, a threat to our security. If we were seen to not reacting at all, people thinking about targeting us may think we are an easy target. Getting hysterical about a threat really doesn't help anyone though. Like I said, we are more likely to be killed or affected by something much closer to home than a genuine terrorist attack.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

Wow, to think swearing is banned on here partly because it is thought it gives the wrong impression to advertisers. I bet Emirates Airlines will be thinking twice now...

You must try harder :thup:

BAN THE BURKA!!! Damn that's going to put all the Burka outfitters off now isn't it... Sorry Mike.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

I couldn't care less how you know or don't know (winky smiley) - It is not naive at all. It's realistic. I don't doubt that due to the issues currently going on in Syria and Iraq there is an increased "threat" and that's all it is at the moment, a threat to our security. If we were seen to not reacting at all, people thinking about targeting us may think we are an easy target. Getting hysterical about a threat really doesn't help anyone though. Like I said, we are more likely to be killed or affected by something much closer to home than a genuine terrorist attack.

Be careful putting them socks on in the morning... Wouldn't want you to become part of a stastistic.

Could you imagine being killed by a donkey and becoming part of that stat... Jeeeez that's not going out in style at all.

 

[JamPal]

They should focus on building a green, sustainable economy, that doesn't rely on the region at all. Nothing more.

 

[woody69]

Be careful putting them socks on in the morning... Wouldn't want you to become part of a stastistic.

Could you imagine being killed by a donkey and becoming part of that stat... Jeeeez that's not going out in style at all.

I'm quite happy putting my socks on in the morning, commuting up to London, getting on the underground and getting to work every day. I'm not a paranoid android who thinks every Muslim is out to behead me or blow me up, and thinks the answer is genocide, but hey you enjoy life from the safety of your bunker.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

I'm quite happy putting my socks on in the morning, commuting up to London, getting on the underground and getting to work every day. I'm not a paranoid android who thinks every Muslim is out to behead me or blow me up, and thinks the answer is genocide, but hey you enjoy life from the safety of your bunker.

Risky buisness that underground... You not worried about an Ebola outbreak in London? I wish I was as brave as you.